WHO WILL WIN THE SUPER BOWL ???

[esoxx]

Whoever votes for any other team should be dead to us. Last I checked no one was eliminated yet. So if I was going to put money on it I would say go Packers and hope. I might also put some on Panthers. Hell I might even put a 5 on Rastak's vikings. That's got to have some crazy odds that will pay out big right?

According to the sports book I use on occasion, you're $5 bet on the Vikings would bring back $150 should they win the SB. They're listed as +3000.

Interesting that GB, the Wild Card entry, is deemed to have a better chance at winning the SB than division champ MN. GB is at +2500. This is likely due to the more favorable matchup they have this weekend versus Wash instead of Sea.

Wash is viewed as the 2nd longest shot to win it all at +4000. Meanwhile, Sea is at +550. So if you were to bet the 'hawks, you would only be getting back $27.50 on your $5 wager by comparison.

Ariz is viewed as the favorite to take Vince's trophy at +400.

[mraynrand]

"The football gods owe the Packers"

WHAT!

Nah uh. I know a purple franchise that has been fucked over more times than you can shake a stick at. And you can shake alot of sticks!

Drew Pearson you piece of shit......Gary Anderson, Greg Williams you cheating dog, Darren Nelson.....should I continue?

Feel free. We can compare notes. Factory of Sadness, The Drive, The Fumble, Red right 88, Belicheat, Artbreak Modell .....

[yetisnowman]

Feel free. We can compare notes. Factory of Sadness, The Drive, The Fumble, Red right 88, Belicheat, Artbreak Modell .....

The Browns by far have the most heartbreaking history. But Detroit takes the cake for just downright consistent futility. Since the Browns/Lions played in the 1957 NFL championship the Lions have one postseason win. Cleveland has 7. The Packers have 29. Something to remember as we lament over a 10-6 season and a postseason appearance. I don't know how people in these cities do it. I can barely handle being a fan of one of the winningest in all pro sports.

[Patler]

I feel sorry for Packer fans who have not been tempered by the '50s, '70s or '80s!

[pbmax]

I feel sorry for Packer fans who have not been tempered by the '50s, '70s or '80s!

I would think that the great drafts of the latter 50s would have been enough.

But apparently fans in the 50s wanted the Packers to sign FAs too?

[Maxie the Taxi]

I would think that the great drafts of the latter 50s would have been enough.

But apparently fans in the 50s wanted the Packers to sign FAs too?

Not as the primary player acquisition tool. Just to fill holes. And trades were popular too.

[mraynrand]

The Browns by far have the most heartbreaking history. But Detroit takes the cake for just downright consistent futility. Since the Browns/Lions played in the 1957 NFL championship the Lions have one postseason win. Cleveland has 7.

Yep. At least we're not Detroit! Oh wait, Detroit has won recent championships in Baseball and Basketball. Cleveland is going on 163 seasons in the three major sports without a championship (Cavs45+Browns51+Indians67=163). 87% of Clevelanders have no personal memory of a Championship, highest of all cities in the US with three franchises.*

*This last 'fact' was invented

[Freak Out]

Wow....depressing stuff there Rand.

[Freak Out]

I went Seattle...I think they are due for a big road run. They still have the talent on both sides and are red hot right now. Of course it's going to be bitter cold this weekend in MSP. I'm not sold on Carolina just yet.

[pbmax]

Not as the primary player acquisition tool. Just to fill holes. And trades were popular too.

No kidding, compared to today, it was a wild and wooly trading market.

[Patler]

I would think that the great drafts of the latter 50s would have been enough.

But apparently fans in the 50s wanted the Packers to sign FAs too?

There was no such thing as free agency as we know it today. Trades were very common, even with your greatest rivals, and they had waivers.

My "tempered" contract was in response to the comment about not experiencing losing teams, long absences from playoffs, etc.

[Patler]

Not as the primary player acquisition tool. Just to fill holes. And trades were popular too.

The draft was 20 rounds in the early '60s, so there were lots of player rights to trade and waivers claims to be had.

[yetisnowman]

Yep. At least we're not Detroit! Oh wait, Detroit has won recent championships in Baseball and Basketball. Cleveland is going on 163 seasons in the three major sports without a championship (Cavs45+Browns51+Indians67=163). 87% of Clevelanders have no personal memory of a Championship, highest of all cities in the US with three franchises.*

*This last 'fact' was invented

Oh without a doubt. I meant only as it relates to the NFL Detroit has been worse. Accounting for all the major sports, its not even close.

[gbgary]

that hated sea.

[Pugger]

Anyone but Seattle please

And MN.