I said, 'I read where you're giving up play-calling,'" Holmgren recalled. "'Mike, don't do that. You're a really good play-caller.' He's very good at that. 'Your body of work is really good. Don't do that.'
"He said, 'I have to spend time with special teams.'
I said, 'Special teams, what do you care about special teams?' I was having fun with him. He wanted to coach other things."
"He said, 'I have to spend time with special teams.'
I said, 'Special teams, what do you care about special teams?' I was having fun with him. He wanted to coach other things."

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