Where do we go from here?

[mraynrand]

I don't think its the QB. I think its the design of the offense. This has been developing for a while. Nelson helps mask it, but good Defenses are now normally able to slow them WAY down.

I am not on red's bandwagon, but something does need to change on O.

Sorry PB, but the big picture isn't the issue when you're missing your top 4 WRs. You win the best way you can. When you D has played lights out but is gassed, and your O is stagnant, you take the chance at the 2 pointer.

[esoxx]

In 2010, they had a lot of injuries, but they did get pretty healthy at the end of the year. This year the injuries never stopped. They got their OL pretty healthy, and they lose Adams and Cobb. It was just a tough season. Once Cobb went out, Packers were without 4 of their top 5 wide receivers. Cardinals had Larry Fitzgerald, John Brown and Michael Floyd. Packers had Janis, Abby and James Jones. They overcame a lot. Patriots struggled late in the season on offense because of injuries. They looked better today because they got one of their top receivers back instead of losing another one.

You do realize AZ had three defensive starters out and their starting RB?

[mraynrand]

You do realize AZ had three defensive starters out and their starting RB?

Jpohnson is washed up. My heart bleeds for them.

[esoxx]

Jpohnson is washed up. My heart bleeds for them.

So their injuries don't matter, only ours. Loser talk.

[pbmax]

Sorry PB, but the big picture isn't the issue when you're missing your top 4 WRs. You win the best way you can. When you D has played lights out but is gassed, and your O is stagnant, you take the chance at the 2 pointer.

Wasn't addressing directly the 2 point conversion. Meant to address injury question. Good Defenses like Arizona's have bottled up the Nelson version of this offense before.

[mraynrand]

So their injuries don't matter, only ours. Loser talk.

that's not the point gaddamn it. The point is that we had all those injuries on offense so we choulda gone for two because we gassed the D and never got a sniff of the AZ side of the field. The point is reality - If AZ was missing their top 4 defenders or offensive fucks, they woulda played it different too.

[mraynrand]

Wasn't addressing directly the 2 point conversion. Meant to address injury question. Good Defenses like Arizona's have bottled up the Nelson version of this offense before.

I know. But that's for an other day. Draf day. Get some speed on offense. Get a tackle.

[esoxx]

Let's face it. After the bye week this team under performed severely. They gave a great effort tonight but came up short in the end. But the problems with the stagnant offense reared up and smacked down this season after the bye week. Period.

Now the question is, who is at fault for the offensive failings that occurred and where do we go from here? That is what needs to be evaluated most in this long offseason.

[pbmax]

You do realize AZ had three defensive starters out and their starting RB?

What is the total preferred starter out number?

Arizona has the Honey Badger, pass rush dude, CB and RB. Anyone else? Did they lose an OL?

Packers had Nelson, Cobb, Adams, Quarless, Barrington and Hyde.

Its not a contest, it made the Arizona D worse versus the pass but against a Packer team ill equipped to take advantage. Its to their credit they did as much damage as they did.

The game is matchups and the Packers were ill equipped to take advantage of the best one for their offense.

[mraynrand]

Let's face it. After the bye week this team under performed severely. They gave a great effort tonight but came up short in the end. But the problems with the stagnant offense reared up and smacked down this season after the bye week. Period.

Ya, but early in this game, Janis was still running his patterns wrong. Is he retarded or is it the coach's fault. Hell if I know, but that's why he was the untrusted #6 WR until they had no fucking choice.

I'm not sure they underperformed at all.

[wist43]

Nothing will change... we'll continue to flounder around and lose playoff game after playoff game.

We are no longer the best team in the division - I see Minnesota continuing to ascend, while we will slowly recede.

We will be in most games and will compete for the division b/c of Rodgers, but the coaching is stale, and TT will never make a big move to put us over the top with respect to players.

It is what it is

[mraynrand]

Nothing will change... we'll continue to flounder around and lose playoff game after playoff game.

We are no longer the best team in the division - I see Minnesota continuing to ascend, while we will slowly recede.

We will be in most games and will compete for the division b/c of Rodgers, but the coaching is stale, and TT will never make a big move to put us over the top with respect to players.

It is what it is

go have Stubby ram his fat cigar up your stinking bung hole and die.

[superfan]

After a rough loss like this it's a shame the venerable Cleft Crusty hasn't made an appearance in this thread to share his insights. That would certainly raise my spirits.

[pbmax]

You heard it here first:

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 9m9 minutes ago
Last time #Packers lost to Cards in playoffs, they won Super Bowl the next year. Call me crazy, but I predict it will happen again in 2016.

[esoxx]

After a rough loss like this it's a shame the venerable Cleft Crusty hasn't made an appearance in this thread to share his insights. That would certainly raise my spirits.

Cleft Crusty lost what was left of his 401k from the urinal scented with the recent stock market dive and now lives under a bridge. Not even in van down by the river.

Sad really.