Where do we go from here?

[Deputy Nutz]

I thought Guion had one more year left, but he should be resigned if he is a free agent. He would be cheaper than Raji. I believe the Packers are in decent shape under the salary cap so there is no reason that Heyward, Raji, and Guion couldn't not be all resigned, remember how much the our dbs made on the free agent market last year makes me think Ted won't pony up for Heyward.

[Tony Oday]

Nothing will change... we'll continue to flounder around and lose playoff game after playoff game.

We are no longer the best team in the division - I see Minnesota continuing to ascend, while we will slowly recede.

We will be in most games and will compete for the division b/c of Rodgers, but the coaching is stale, and TT will never make a big move to put us over the top with respect to players.

It is what it is

The Vikings are terrible. We almost won this game without our too 4 WR?!

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The Vikings are terrible. We almost won this game without our too 4 WR?!

BS

janis and abby looked better then any of our wr's (minus jordy) have looked all year

[Joemailman]

I thought Guion had one more year left, but he should be resigned if he is a free agent. He would be cheaper than Raji. I believe the Packers are in decent shape under the salary cap so there is no reason that Heyward, Raji, and Guion couldn't not be all resigned, remember how much the our dbs made on the free agent market last year makes me think Ted won't pony up for Heyward.

I agree. let him go and take the comp pick. Gunter replaces him on the 46. I'd rather have Raji than Guion, but don't think both will be back. They have Pennel, get Boyd back from IR, and there are about a dozen DT's in the draft good enough to go in the first 3 rounds.

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yes we need to get gunter on the field next year

hayward is over rated imo anyways

[Strange Brew]

get rid of the staff and start from scratch

i never want to see any of those fuckers again

Agreed! Clean house and put Eliot Wolf in charge.

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Agreed! Clean house and put Eliot Wolf in charge.

yes

maybe TT will finally retire and m3 will be offered a hc/gm job somewhere else

[Iron Mike]

The Vikings are terrible. We almost won this game without our too 4 WR?!

Consider history. The Queens will evaluate that all they need to do to get to elite status is to sign some free agents.....then they'll spend a bunch of $ and waste draft picks on some FA WRs that Teddy Bongwater can't even throw the ball to. Two years down the road, they'll be back in the basement with the Bears, allowing them time to collect draft picks and start the cycle all over again.

[texaspackerbacker]

yes we need to get gunter on the field next year

hayward is over rated imo anyways

I almost forgot about Gunter. Add him to the list with Janis and Elliot of talented players the Packers make poor use of.

[Patler]

I thought Guion had one more year left, but he should be resigned if he is a free agent. He would be cheaper than Raji. I believe the Packers are in decent shape under the salary cap so there is no reason that Heyward, Raji, and Guion couldn't not be all resigned, remember how much the our dbs made on the free agent market last year makes me think Ted won't pony up for Heyward.

The problem is, you can't improve the talent level by keeping all of the same players. It's a risk that you might in fact lower the talent level, but staying the same is not good enough.
Let Hayward go to give the younger, seemingly talented guys more opportunities.
Sign one of Raji or Guion and bring in someone new.

Beyond that:

Make Adams re-earn is position as #3 WR,
Let Montgomery challenge Cobb for his opportunities.
Allow Abbrederis and Janis to be less than perfect without being banished to the bench from where they watched the others make the same mistakes without repercussion.
Put conditioning requirements on Lacy, if the off season indicates he isn't following them, look to trade him. He isn't destined for a long career anyway if he doesn't get in shape.

Work at finding replacements for Shields and Bulaga. Both are key players, but neither is dependable physically. Neither should see another Packer contract, so you need to find their replacements. Shields has never played a 16 game regular season and has played 15 just once in 6 years. He averages 13 games/season. That disrupts the entire defense. Bulaga has been as bad for the 5 season's he has played in, but has an entire missed season in addition to that. In other words, he has been available for just 64 of 96 games since he and shields were rookies.

MOST IMPORTANTLY: Find out where AR's accuracy went. I have been watching past games to compare AR to the other QBs and to himself from previous years. Last night he missed long throws both being short and overthrowing. He skipped a ball into Jones when there was an opportunity for a completion. A tight window, sure, but he has hit those for his entire career until this year. He has made very few throws that showcased accuracy this year, but had opportunities every game to do so. On sideline throws most often he has been high, in spite of skipping it in to Jones last night. Accuracy was an issue even in training camp this year, mentioned before the season started, so it isn't due entirely to the WR and blocking issues that developed this year. It preceded those problems.

[mraynrand]

My head is feeling better now that my family pulled it out of the oven.

[call_me_ishmael]

I agree. let him go and take the comp pick. Gunter replaces him on the 46. I'd rather have Raji than Guion, but don't think both will be back. They have Pennel, get Boyd back from IR, and there are about a dozen DT's in the draft good enough to go in the first 3 rounds.

Raji is getting old enough where I don't think he'll completely break the bank. He has done *everything* right in terms of being all class when injured, etc. I expect the Packers to match his level of class and bring him back. I think Guion will likely be gone as well as Heyward.

[Patler]

My head is feeling better now that my family pulled it out of the oven.

Were they conflicted in doing that?

[mraynrand]

Were they conflicted in doing that?

yeah, they only did it because they felt they'd be blamed.

[mraynrand]

Raji: World class