Where do we go from here?

[Bossman641]

It's a shame Hayward never rediscovered his ball-hawking days of his rookie year. I wonder if it will come back next year being another year out from injury.

[pbmax]

Carl Bradford's nickname should be Sasquatch. Does he really exist? There have been rumored sightings, but are they reliable? Matt Rotheram could replace Barclay next year. We need to be drumming up some support for Ringo. Heard some good reports about him in practice. He was seen as something of a Mike Daniels clone when he was drafted.

And like Sasquatch, we have grainy film of him walking around in the wilds up North.

[Deputy Nutz]

Do you think he bases his throws on traditional QBR during the games or does he use that ESPN rating? I suspect the latter. Probably the running computation of his QBR is throwing off his game. Maybe the Packers could hire a QBR/stat guy to take the pressure off Rodgers and more quickly suggest passes and strategies that optimize his stats. They could cleverly sneak in plays designed to win over the plays Rodgers chooses to pad his stats.

Probably the ESPN rating. You could hire a stat guy but eventually Rodgers will just roll his eyes and shake his head at him in disgust.

[Deputy Nutz]

^All I know is that I am glad he is finally throwing interceptions now (especially wide in the end zone) as an indication that he is serious about #winning and not padding his stats or being anal retentive. Perhaps next year he can consider adding interceptions in the middle of the field as evidence of his dedication to #winning.

His interceptions have been poor throws this year. He has missed open receiver or under thrown them, they weren't caused because Aaron was taking a risk.

[pbmax]

His interceptions have been poor throws this year. He has missed open receiver or under thrown them, they weren't caused because Aaron was taking a risk.

a) He had 8 interceptions, you are only remembering two of the end zone ones.

b) Throwing on the move, from odd angles and back footed, is always a greater risk that pocket throws. That he made the throw despite his down year and disconnect from his receivers disproves the hypothesis.

[Patler]

Do you think he bases his throws on traditional QBR during the games or does he use that ESPN rating? I suspect the latter. Probably the running computation of his QBR is throwing off his game. Maybe the Packers could hire a QBR/stat guy to take the pressure off Rodgers and more quickly suggest passes and strategies that optimize his stats. They could cleverly sneak in plays designed to win over the plays Rodgers chooses to pad his stats.

Now I understand why he always has the Microsoft Surface in his hands as soon as he comes of the field. He is recalculating his QBR to decide where his emphasis should be during the next series. Completions? Yardage? A TD? So many things to keep track of.

[red]

a) He had 8 interceptions, you are only remembering two of the end zone ones.

b) Throwing on the move, from odd angles and back footed, is always a greater risk that pocket throws. That he made the throw despite his down year and disconnect from his receivers disproves the hypothesis.

pick #1 against rams, tipped at line and picked off
#2 rams, db baited the throw and made a good play on the ball. good throw, bad decision to throw
#3 against panthers. last play of the game, under pressure, bad throw, cobb was wide open on the play and a-rod never saw him
#4 against bears, adams got bumped off his route, but i'm not so sure he could have gotten to the ball anyways. could go either way
#5 lions, horrible throw high over the receivers head
#6 raiders. under pressure, terrible underthrow to the endzone right at 2 raiders
#7 cards. bad throw into endzone right into defenders hands. maybe more of a bad decision
#8 queens. bad throw in endzone
#9 cards, playoffs. tipped at line


2 unlucky breaks
1 that maybe should have been a penalty but still might have been a bad throw
2 bad decisions
4 bad throws

in years past it seemed like almost all his ints came off bad breaks, ike off the hands of his receivers

[pbmax]

^Accepting you diagnosis for the moment, does any of that scream unwilling to take risks?

[red]

^Accepting you diagnosis for the moment, does any of that scream unwilling to take risks?

no, can't tell on the first tip pass, but on all of them he was throwing to covered players (someone within a few yards of the receiver)

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 21m21 minutes ago
#Packers reserve-future signings: WR J. Johnson, WR Williams, LB Bradford, T Vujnovich, DT Campbell, G Rotheram, TE Henry and DT Ringo.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 24m24 minutes ago
#Packers sign all but 2 practice squad players to reserve/future contracts. Scheuerman and McBryde not on list of those added to '16 roster.

[Deputy Nutz]

^Accepting you diagnosis for the moment, does any of that scream unwilling to take risks?

It does for me.

[Bretsky]

Assuming they all get healthy, I could live with the following depth chart at WR

1. Nelson
2. Cobb
3. Montgomery
4. Abby
5. Janis
6. Fresno Fraud

But they HAVE to get a receiving TE and they really need a speedy receiving scatback (Dion Lewis/James White) to go along with those guys.

Add a high pick ILB to get Clay back outside, and then some OL and DL and we should be ok.

[Bretsky]

And undoubtedly we need a separate QB and separate WR coach and then we gotta stop shuffling all this shit up and get consistency back

[smuggler]

The problem with designed consistency is that it doesn't further the careers of your coaching crew. So, they have to pursue more varied experience elsewhere, if they have designs on becoming HC or coordinator somewhere along the line. It happened with McAdoo. *shrug*

[Deputy Nutz]

Assuming they all get healthy, I could live with the following depth chart at WR

1. Nelson
2. Cobb
3. Montgomery
4. Abby
5. Janis
6. Fresno Fraud

But they HAVE to get a receiving TE and they really need a speedy receiving scatback (Dion Lewis/James White) to go along with those guys.

Add a high pick ILB to get Clay back outside, and then some OL and DL and we should be ok.

Agree with most of this, Starks is pretty good out of the backfield as a receiver so I wouldn't say they need a smaller RB to aid in the passing game.

A high pick at ILB is great, if one is available in the draft and you are not reaching just to fill the void.

The Fresno Fraud- this might be extreme as he as contributed to this team his first two seasons but has not progressed his second year like everyone thought. I think it might have been too big of a jump for him when Jordy went out. He wasn't ready and the ankle injury didn't help matters. I am willing to give him another season to see if he can fill the role of a younger James Jones.