Where do we go from here?

[pbmax]

I will never again believe that a veteran player cannot learn a new skill.

Never in the history of the Harlan/Murphy Packers did anything look more out of sync than Aaron Rodgers trying to complete a screen or short pass to James Starks.

The fact that it now works well is nearly a miracle.

[pbmax]

The problem with designed consistency is that it doesn't further the careers of your coaching crew. So, they have to pursue more varied experience elsewhere, if they have designs on becoming HC or coordinator somewhere along the line. It happened with McAdoo. *shrug*

Someone needs to shake up M3 on his no huddle offense's problems versus man coverage.

[mraynrand]

The Fresno Fraud- this might be extreme as he as contributed to this team his first two seasons but has not progressed his second year like everyone thought. I think it might have been too big of a jump for him when Jordy went out. He wasn't ready and the ankle injury didn't help matters. I am willing to give him another season to see if he can fill the role of a younger James Jones.

ya, you did say the same thing. I think this is accurate. And next year, with everyone back, Adams will have some spotlight off him and he might just explode for a 1000 yard season, especially as a 3-5 receiver against inferior Douchebacks.

[Striker]

And undoubtedly we need a separate QB and separate WR coach and then we gotta stop shuffling all this shit up and get consistency back

^^^

This.

[pbmax]

Green Bay Packers @packers 1h1 hour ago
The #Packers have signed DE B.J. McBryde: http://pckrs.com/9a83

[woodbuck27]

^^^

This.

YUP.

[Carolina_Packer]

yeah, they only did it because they felt they'd be blamed.

That, and the frozen pizza was ready to bake.

[Fritz]

I will never again believe that a veteran player cannot learn a new skill.

Never in the history of the Harlan/Murphy Packers did anything look more out of sync than Aaron Rodgers trying to complete a screen or short pass to James Starks.

The fact that it now works well is nearly a miracle.

You know, I kept forgetting to ask about this. My memory was that Starks was known for having poor hands - I distinctly remember that being the case, and him dropping passes all the time. Now he's known as their best pass-catching back? Crazy.

[Bretsky]

The Fresno Fraud- this might be extreme as he as contributed to this team his first two seasons but has not progressed his second year like everyone thought. I think it might have been too big of a jump for him when Jordy went out. He wasn't ready and the ankle injury didn't help matters. I am willing to give him another season to see if he can fill the role of a younger James Jones.

FOR THE RECORD I completely agree with you Nutz. Fresno Fraud is harsh at this point and he gets another year to try to earn his 2nd round status but I'm quick to judge and still bitter Ted didn't draft my guy instead of the Fresno Fraud so I've labeled him early. I will say this though. Mike Montgomery showed me more this year in terms of route running ability than Adams has up to this point. And I'm doubtful he'll prove to be a good comparison with our normal litter of 2nd round WR's....aka....Jennings/Nelson/Cobb.

[Bretsky]

Agree with most of this, Starks is pretty good out of the backfield as a receiver so I wouldn't say they need a smaller RB to aid in the passing game.

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I too think Starks is ok out of the backfield. But I'm referring to a guy that can create mismatches so if our WR's get hurt you can plug him and the defense will have to be worried.....guys like Sproles/Deon Lewis...and the emerging James White are examples. When all of NE's WR's were out they were very smart to draft those guys and thankful they had Deon Lewis and White....who LB's could not cover and safeties were sometimes challenged..to pick up the load

[Maxie the Taxi]

You know, I kept forgetting to ask about this. My memory was that Starks was known for having poor hands - I distinctly remember that being the case, and him dropping passes all the time. Now he's known as their best pass-catching back? Crazy.

Maybe because all the others are much worse. LOL

Not dropping a screen pass is one thing. Running routes with speed and precision, snaring passes at the sideline or in front of the LB's and becoming a real weapon ala David Johnson with Arizona is something else again. IMO that's what the Packers need badly. (Remember Dorsey Levens? There was a RB with WR hands and route running ability.)

[Deputy Nutz]

I too think Starks is ok out of the backfield. But I'm referring to a guy that can create mismatches so if our WR's get hurt you can plug him and the defense will have to be worried.....guys like Sproles/Deon Lewis...and the emerging James White are examples. When all of NE's WR's were out they were very smart to draft those guys and thankful they had Deon Lewis and White....who LB's could not cover and safeties were sometimes challenged..to pick up the load

Interesting, Its kind of a throw back to the late 80s to mid 90s where running backs were capable of running routes as a split end or in the slot. Thurman Thomas was the all time best for the Buffalo Bills. I always wondered why teams stopped doing this. The Packers under Holmgren expected their running backs to double as receivers.

[Joemailman]

Aaron Rodgers has pulled out of the Pro Bowl and gave injury as a reason. I figured he was just using it as an excuse because he didn't want to play in the Pro Bowl. But Jason Wilde said he has talked to someone inside 1265 who says Rodgers has a legitimate injury. That would raise some questions:

Was Rodgers' reduced accuracy this year due to an injury?

Do the injury reports mean anything? He was listed on the injury report in November, but I don't think he had been lately.

Can he stay healthy for a whole season? This would be the 3rd year in a row that his play in the 2nd half of the season was affected by an injury.

[pbmax]

Well, they lost their Assistant Line Coach: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ve-line-coach/

Solari is the new line coach for the Giants.

[Patler]

Well, they lost their Assistant Line Coach: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ve-line-coach/

Solari is the new line coach for the Giants.

It never seemed like he would be here long. Supposedly he turned down an offer from someone last year to be line coach, and decided to go to GB as an assistant instead. Seemed odd to me, and temporary at best. He has had positions as OL coach, TE coach and OC for 30 years.