Here come the articles about replacing McCarthy

[Patler]

Didn't even take a day.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...365591411.html

Interesting fact found in the article:

Incredibly, five of McCarthy's seven playoff defeats occurred on the final play of the game.

D'Amato asks this question:

And you have to ask yourself: How many Super Bowls would Bill Belichick have won with this team over the last 10 years?

I would answer with another question: how many did BB win with his own teams from from 2005 until last year, teams that had Tom Brady as their QB, teams that had even better records that MM's teams, including one that was 16-0. The answer is 0 until last year. Does D'Amato think the Packers have been better the past 10 years, or that Rodgers has been better than Brady?

People act like Belichick wins the SB every other year.

[George Cumby]

And who is the Sage they propose we replace him with?

He's frustrating for sure but we are lucky to have him.

[Rastak]

Is it possible to get defeated before the final play of a game?

[woodbuck27]

We all must somehow .....LOVE Mike McCarthy in spite of his anal dysfunction. A common affliction that a keen 'win first' fan, cannot help but see in MM; unless your itching too much because of your ' Homer - ism Rash'.

[Joemailman]

Since McCarthy became head coach, only Tom Coughlin has won 2 Super Bowls. And he had to miss the playoffs 4 consecutive years before being shown the door.

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And who is the Sage they propose we replace him with?

He's frustrating for sure but we are lucky to have him.

who the hell was mike mccarthy before we signed him?

an average OC that no one wanted

theres a ton of guys out there, the next great coach might be someone you never heard of before he signs for us

[woodbuck27]

Is it possible to get defeated before the final play of a game?

CAUTION Rastak:

Thinking too hard about .....that ......may destroy brain cells.

OK.....I'll chance that........Is this the correct response?

NOPE.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Stubby has been head coach here for 10 years. His record should count for something. On the other hand, his tenure doesn't take replacing him off the table. In fact, some would say if a head coach is 10 years in his position, he's getting stale and the team needs a change. He's not bullet-proof. There are things he does well, but he's got weaknesses, his game management, conservative tendencies and late playoff collapses to name a few. Plus, he's made some questionable staff moves this year. Discussion is legitimate.

[mraynrand]

People act like Belichick wins the SB every other year.

A good coach wins the Superbowl every year. Stubby is not a good coach.

[woodbuck27]

Stubby has been head coach here for 10 years. His record should count for something. On the other hand, his tenure doesn't take replacing him off the table. In fact, some would say if a head coach is 10 years in his position, he's getting stale and the team needs a change. He's not bullet-proof. There are things he does well, but he's got weaknesses, his game management, conservative tendencies and late playoff collapses to name a few. Plus, he's made some questionable staff moves this year. Discussion is legitimate.

Your observations are bang on.

You nailed it.

[mraynrand]

who the hell was mike mccarthy before we signed him?

an average OC that no one wanted

theres a ton of guys out there, the next great coach might be someone you never heard of before he signs for us

Like Ben McAdoo!

[denverYooper]

I don't think M3 (or anyone) is in the same stratosphere as Bellichick but he gets the Packers in the conversation every year. Both last year and this, they went into their last games as underdogs and played those teams right down to the wire. Green Bay and Seattle have been playoff constants for the last 5 years and probably for at least the next 3 years, with Minnesota and Carolina threatening to take a position as perennial contenders. All of the other NFC teams have entered and left.

Rodgers and M3 have at least one more Superbowl before they are done. 1 year where Shields (or other DB) makes those gimme INTs, 1 year where Palmer (or other previous hot team) has that pass bounce harmlessly away, 1 year where they secure the onside kick, 1 year where they get the bounce they need to live and win. That only happens when they keep putting themselves in position for those things to happen. Keep flipping the coin and eventually you get heads a few times in a row. That's what the modern playoffs come down to for good teams.

[Patler]

If MM has gotten stale, has lost his passion, or has lost control/respect in the locker room, replacing him should be immediate. I have never been of the opinion that anyone is untouchable, including TT, MM, Favre or Rodgers. But all things are dependent. Replacing any of them can result in so much worse that you have to have a reason to do so.

Favre was on the block because there was good reason to think/hope that AR could carry on for the long term, and Favre's career was winding down..
Rodgers can be put on the trade block if Hundley or someone else shows the same potential, not necessarily to be just as good as Rodgers ever was, but to be as good as needed for the team to be successful at a time when Rodgers career is winding down.

For GMs and HCs, its not as easy. There isn't usually anyone waiting in the wings, prepped to take over. With GMs and HCs who have had success, you replace them if and when it appears the future looks less bright under their leadership than the past has been.

MM seemed to realize some things needed to change last year. He made a lot of changes in the off season. The only ones that seemed to work were with respect to Special Teams. To me, his willingness to make the changes was significant. For that reason, I am willing to let him try again.

[mraynrand]

Bellichick is in the conversation for greatest NFL coach of all time. That's pretty exclusive territory. If that's your standard, no one matches up. 31 teams wish they had that. And as I said before, 28 probably wish they had what the Packers have.

So the real conversation is how can Stubby/Packers improve. I think you need fresh blood, but a little higher up. An outside OC would be interesting. If everyone who can counter Stubby has been brought up in the organization, they are less likely to disagree with him. Solaris might be interesting if they let Bennett test the waters...

Wonder if at 62, Clements is pretty much out of the advancement running. Maybe his best destiny is to be a QB coach - but can he go back to it in GB without being humiliated?

[mraynrand]

MM seemed to realize some things needed to change last year. He made a lot of changes in the off season. The only ones that seemed to work were with respect to Special Teams. To me, his willingness to make the changes was significant. For that reason, I am willing to let him try again.

You start drawing up the contract extension, and I'll make sure he meets with you tomorrow.