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  • #61
    It is funny we have a couple of camps who want MM gone. One says he runs to much and doesn't use his MVP QB. One says we abandon our running game and pass too much.

    You can't please everyone!
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

    -Tim Harmston

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    • #62
      Originally posted by th87 View Post
      I don't want MM fired, but for those of you citing Andy Reid and the like forget that we have the best QB in the NFL. Pretty much any okay coach can be successful with him (see the Jim Mora, Tony Dungy, Jim Caldwell succession).

      The bigger problem is TT's inexplicable unwillingness to fill those final roster holes, which then bite us in the ass. The perplexing thing is that he's great otherwise. But this year, a TE worth anything would've opened things up considerably, and maybe we have HFA then. ILB held us back last year. Year before was S. Before that, OLB.

      I wonder if Wolf/Schneider can draft as well?
      Was Belichick successful without Brady?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
        ^^^ I disagree. It's not a choke to play for OT.
        All of you bemoaning the fact we didn't go for 2 all assume we'll make it and win the game.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Pugger View Post
          All of you bemoaning the fact we didn't go for 2 all assume we'll make it and win the game.
          Either you're trying to antagonize, or you really don't get it. We all are aware of the odds of success. We're simply willing to take our chances on those odds. I didn't assume anything.
          One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
          John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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          • #65
            Then you get this side of MM !




            McCarthy:Confusing catch rule 'ridiculous'

            By: Ryan Wood, USA TODAY NETWORK-Wisconsin 7 p.m. EST January 17, 2016

            I'm never sure if I want to laugh...cry or scream at his play calling?

            The 3rd down plays and the unnerving Time Out calls is certainly something that then Team needs to see lessened next season. I'm hoping that was too often the case because they so often didn't have confidence.

            Confidence and that often down. Why?

            Maybe we're back to Aaron Rodgers and being over cautious...too much needing to be 'the perfectionist?

            Maybe it's just a combination of poor 'not on the same page' or dissension between MM and ARod?...I can't tell and there's no way this is truthfully revealed to the media. The reporters can dig it out for us. They likely will take it to the facts or stab at it in the dark. Usually you throw enough wet mud on a wall and some of it is sure to stick.

            Vince Lombardi is somewhere thinking:


            What in HELL is going on around here!???

            Vince .......Please
            ....May the Spirit of your Powers to.... BE THE 'WINNER' to have compassion on us....reveal enlightenment on the majority of us.

            Help get us on the same page.
            ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
            ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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            • #66
              Members here 'of course' know that:

              MM just signed a four-year extension after last season. It shouldn't be expected that he's going ...anywhere.

              Now given that:

              Unless MM decides on an opportunity elsewhere and TT loves him and won't let him go easily. I view MM is a distraction from TT. Why? Because he sometimes plainly looks bad.

              He'll more than likely set his sights on 15 years and a Green Bay Packer Head Coach. He's just getting started. his job is more than secure. He's LOCKED IN.

              Long Live Mike McCarthy as Packer HC.

              Might as well join Em !? LOL
              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
              ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                Either you're trying to antagonize, or you really don't get it. We all are aware of the odds of success. We're simply willing to take our chances on those odds. I didn't assume anything.
                +1. I just thought the odds were better.



                However, in retrospect, given a choice between losing the way they did in OT, and losing on a defensed 2 point attempt, I much prefer the latter.
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post

                  MM just signed a four-year extension after last season
                  And boy has he extended. At least they are happy over at The Golden Corral.
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                    Members here 'of course' know that:

                    MM just signed a four-year extension after last season. It shouldn't be expected that he's going ...anywhere.

                    Now given that:

                    Unless MM decides on an opportunity elsewhere and TT loves him and won't let him go easily. I view MM is a distraction from TT. Why? Because he sometimes plainly looks bad.

                    He'll more than likely set his sights on 15 years and a Green Bay Packer Head Coach. He's just getting started. his job is more than secure. He's LOCKED IN.

                    Long Live Mike McCarthy as Packer HC.

                    Might as well join Em !? LOL
                    extensions mean absolutely noting for coaches

                    m2 got canned after the first year of his extension

                    and like M3 people said he could never leave because he was a winning coach. i remember i think back on JSO people just throwing shit fits when he got canned because of his record

                    he never got another head coaching gig in the nfl, got fired has a college coach, and is now coaching pewee ball or some shit

                    BECAUSE HE SUCKED AS A COACH AND ONLY WON BECAUSE OF HIS HOF QB!!!!!!!

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                    • #70
                      ^^^^ Find one coach who hasn't been fired. Shermy had one good year at Texas A&M, but his QB threw too many INTs
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by red View Post
                        extensions mean absolutely noting for coaches

                        m2 got canned after the first year of his extension

                        and like M3 people said he could never leave because he was a winning coach. i remember i think back on JSO people just throwing shit fits when he got canned because of his record

                        he never got another head coaching gig in the nfl, got fired has a college coach, and is now coaching pewee ball or some shit

                        BECAUSE HE SUCKED AS A COACH AND ONLY WON BECAUSE OF HIS HOF QB!!!!!!!
                        Well, he never got to develop a HoF QB unless you think Craig Nall was robbed.

                        But he was an above average coach. I think he should have gotten another shot, but after being GM, getting another shot would require either explicitly retreating from a desire to control personnel or chasing only jobs that offered it. Puts him in an awkward position.

                        I do think, unlike M3, that his emotional approach with players did wear itself out after a time.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                          ^^^^ Find one coach who hasn't been fired. Shermy had one good year at Texas A&M, but his QB threw too many INTs
                          mike fucking mccarthy smart ass

                          at least not yet anyways

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            Well, he never got to develop a HoF QB unless you think Craig Nall was robbed.

                            But he was an above average coach. I think he should have gotten another shot, but after being GM, getting another shot would require either explicitly retreating from a desire to control personnel or chasing only jobs that offered it. Puts him in an awkward position.

                            I do think, unlike M3, that his emotional approach with players did wear itself out after a time.
                            that makes no sense because the only job he got after being canned in green bay was as an OC with the texans (his offence finished 14th)
                            and he was also an OC in miami but was fired after 2 seasons, even though the team had drafted his QB from a & m

                            OC is a much bigger demotion then just HC without being GM

                            and at A&M he was an awesome .500 coach for 3 years

                            maybe he didn't get another shot at being a head coach in the NFL because people just didn't think he was a very good coach?

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                            • #74
                              While MM is not the best coach in the league, at least 16 teams would see him as an upgrade. So we have at least an above average coach. I wanted to fire him yesterday. NOt so much today. However we do need some new route concepts to help get slow wr's open.
                              All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                              George Orwell

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                              • #75
                                Well, if you need to step down two levels to get a job, that doesn't make you a more attractive candidate, that we can agree.

                                But I still think some teams don't want to hire a possible future replacement for the person currently making decisions. If you are the GM or HC of a struggling team, do you want to put your possible replacement on the current roster of coaches?

                                It could be that leaving for college represented Sherm realizing he wasn't going to get a second chance, but he is also very loyal, so following in RC Slocum's footsteps might have mattered more.

                                Regardless, still think he was an above average coach and the fact that 20 struggling franchises made another in a long line of bad decisions doesn't change my opinion of him. I did not want him to continue with the Packers for many reasons, but his basic competency as a HC wasn't the issue.


                                *When Slocum gets auto corrected, it changes to Slouch.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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