Warner's career sounds like what some posters here would like to do to Rodgers - or Stubby.
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Come on, Fran Tarkenton was a noodle armed waterbug. His playoff record is a function of those amazing defenses he played with, and yet he still never managed to win a SB.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post#14
Fran Tarkenton 6-0 190lbs
Vikings, Giants
Fran Tarkenton was a 9 time pro bowler for the Vikings and the Giants. His hectic style in the backfield in Minnesota frustrated his coach and led to him being traded to the Giants in 1968. He was then traded back to the Vikings in 1972. It was in the 1970s that Fran took the Vikings to 3 Super Bowls winning NFC Titles in 1973, 1974, and 1976. He was named the NFL's offensive player of the year in 1975, NFL MVP, and also earning All-Pro honors the same year.
Years Played: 18
Games Started: 239
Regular Season Record: 124-109-6
Playoff Record: 6-5
Completion %: 57
Yards per Attempt: 7.3
Yards per Completion: 12.8
Yards per Game: 191
TD to INT ratio: 342-266
QB rating: 80.4
4th Quarter Comebacks: 30
Game Winning Drives: 34
Rushing Yards: 3674
Yards per Carry: 5.4
Rushing TDs: 32
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I was just about to accuse him, Bud Grant and whoever else coached him of being idiots. They should have kicked a FG instead of scoring 4/10 of a TD. The FG is worth more!Originally posted by mraynrand View PostReally? No, it's 32 rushing TDs, 675 attempts, and 5.4 yards/attemptQuote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz
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Fran Tarkenton 6-0 190lbs
Rushing Yards: 3674
Yards per Carry: 32
Rushing TDs: 5.4
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I couldn't figure if .4 TDs is 2.4 or 2.8 points. You can't score .4 or .8 points even with replacement refs.Originally posted by Patler View PostI was just about to accuse him, Bud Grant and whoever else coached him of being idiots. They should have kicked a FG instead of scoring 4/10 of a TD. The FG is worth more!"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Sad how some people are so afraid to be called a homer that they can't speak the truth if it happens to support their own.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View PostThe bottom line with Rodgers is that he isn't finished yet nor is he close to finished. He is not even the best QB of his era and like I have mentioned the tough thing about all this is jumping fro era to era with how the game was played and how the game was called by officials. Rodgers, Manninng, Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger all play in the current era where the passing game is emphasized by the league. We have record setting play currently going on in the NFL and I don't necessarily think it is because the QBs are all that much better than QBs of the past.
To be honest Rodgers wasn't even on my original list. Its just that his stats really jump off the charts, but a lot of QB stats jump out from 2007 on. Don't you think it is weird that Brett Favre had his best statistical season ever at the age of 40 in 2009?
What QB EVER had the positive stats and overall success of Aaron Rodgers with the extremely low level of interceptions? That lack of turnovers combined with great success trumps everything else sets Rodgers apart from a lot of others who threw with great success but put if up for grabs a lot more often.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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I come out of lurking to hail a welcome back to Scott Campbell, as well as to acknowledge Nutz's great new avatar!Originally posted by Scott Campbell View PostI can now say I know Kurt and he's one of the nicest human beings I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. He's like a G rated version of the Skinbasket.
I now slink back...
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NDSU isn't Division II. They moved up to Division I (FCS). They've won championships (5) every year since, except their first year. No team at any level of college had won 5 straight. They've won their last 6 games against FBS competition (including defending Big 12 champion, Kansas State, in a year they won a bowl game), all on the road. Lately, some of the games haven't been that close, 34-14 over Iowa State and 37-24 in a comfortable win over Minnesota. Of course, most of those teams are lower echelon Power 5 teams (Minnesota, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Colorado, Colorado State). Next year, they get Iowa, so it will be a bigger test, and they lose their QB, Carson Wentz, who might end being first QB taken in this year's draft.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostGood call. But Division II is pretty close to high school. I think the hierarchy is: Division I > Division II > U of Minnesota > high school. Not sure about the last two.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I know they changed the designations, but sorry NDSU didn't win the 'Level one' championship, whatever the hell you want to call it - FBS or some other such nonsense. They won the lower level FCS championship. I'm too bored to look it up, but has the same QB led them in every championship, because that's the point I was making with Otto Graham? I'm not really interested in digging deep into NDSU football, as fine a program as they are.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostNDSU isn't Division II. They moved up to Division I (FCS). They've won championships (5) every year since, except their first year. No team at any level of college had won 5 straight. They've won their last 6 games against FBS competition (including defending Big 12 champion, Kansas State, in a year they won a bowl game), all on the road. Lately, some of the games haven't been that close, 34-14 over Iowa State and 37-24 in a comfortable win over Minnesota. Of course, most of those teams are lower echelon Power 5 teams (Minnesota, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Colorado, Colorado State). Next year, they get Iowa, so it will be a bigger test, and they lose their QB, Carson Wentz, who might end being first QB taken in this year's draft.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...P-PLAYING-THEM"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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My brain can't conceptualize this.Originally posted by Scott Campbell View PostI can now say I know Kurt and he's one of the nicest human beings I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. He's like a G rated version of the Skinbasket."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I'm going to find your dog's butthole with my meat baton if you put Bert in the top 10. I see right through this "list" of yours. You wouldn't put this kind of time and effort into something unless it delivers a payoff of being a long winded way to say Rodgers isn't half the QB Farve was.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post^^^^^^
Skinbasket is a nice fellow, he is just the strangest person I know. The rumor has it that he has found religion."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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Bart Starr 6-1 197lbs
Packers
Bart Starr went from being the 200 pick in the 1956 draft to winning more NFL championships than any other quarterback. He was the first quarterback to ever win a Super Bowl and was named the MVP in Super Bowl I and Super Bowl II. He was the 1966 NFL MVP, and went to 4 Pro Bowls. He was famously known for his game winning drive and touchdown in the 1967 NFL Championship against the Dallas Cowboys dubbed the "ICE BOWL" because of the below zero temps and windchill during the December 31st game in Green Bay. Starr was responsible for calling the plays in the huddle, he had a great mind for the game which would later lead him into coaching for the only team he ever played for. He was inducted into the NFL Hall Of Fame in 1977.
Years Played: 16
Games Started: 157
Regular Season Record: 94-57-6
Playoff Record: 9-1
Completion %: 57.4
Yards per Attempt: 7.8
Yards per Completion: 13.7
Yards per Game: 126.1
TD to INT ratio: 152-138
QB rating: 80.5
4th Quarter Comebacks: 19
Game Winning Drives: 18
Rushing Yards: 1308
Yards per Carry: 5.3
Rushing TDs: 15
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