2015-16 Non Packer Playoffs

[woodbuck27]

I'm still in the Montana camp of best QB ever, even if Peyton wins this SB.

Right as of now...Joe 'Cool' Montana...Is the NO. 1 QB ALL TIME.

He's the Maestro of the BIG Game Result.

[Patler]

Greg Olsen was a resign.

He was traded for a third rd pick from the Bears.

One of the worst trades in Bears history.

I was wondering at the time of that trade:

What were they thinking. A head shaker.

Couldn't they afford his talent?

Wasn't it the thought at that time that Olsen wasn't a good fit for the scheme of Mike Martz or whoever was the Bear's OC at the time?

It didn't make a lot of sense to me either. It would seem that a good pass catching tight end could be useful in any scheme.

[Joemailman]

Wasn't it the thought at that time that Olsen wasn't a good fit for the scheme of Mike Martz or whoever was the Bear's OC at the time?

It didn't make a lot of sense to me either. It would seem that a good pass catching tight end could be useful in any scheme.

You would think so. But in Martz' scheme, the TE was primarily a blocker to give the WR's time to get open downfield. In 2001 when the Rams went to the Super Bowl, Kurt Warner completed 380 passes for 4900 yards. TE's caught about 50 passes for about 550 yards.

[KYPack]

Wasn't it the thought at that time that Olsen wasn't a good fit for the scheme of Mike Martz or whoever was the Bear's OC at the time?

It didn't make a lot of sense to me either. It would seem that a good pass catching tight end could be useful in any scheme.

Yeah, there was that sentiment. He also got hurt and the "fan" sentiment was he wasn't an impact #1 pick. Well, that was stupid and if you are a GM, don't listen to fans bc they are stupid. Olsen was a disciplined route runner with good hands. He was a #1 pick, so what? He could play then and he's even better now. It ain't the first time the Bear FO outsmarted themselves and it wont' be the last.

[Bossman641]

Wasn't it the thought at that time that Olsen wasn't a good fit for the scheme of Mike Martz or whoever was the Bear's OC at the time?

It didn't make a lot of sense to me either. It would seem that a good pass catching tight end could be useful in any scheme.

We can thank Mike Martz for that one. He wanted a blocking TE so all his deep routes could materialize and went with Kellen Davis after Olsen left. It worked out OK for the Bears as they flipped the 3rd rounder for Brandon Marshall.

[yetisnowman]

Who did Carolina sign? I just looked and it looks like they signed Greg Olsen, Boykins, Michael Ohr, and some journey man CB. The rest were resigning their own players.

Tolbert , Ginn Jr., Cotchery, are also free agent signings. I think it's completely fair to point out Carolina's aggressiveness via trades and free agency, in comparison to Ted and the Pack.

[ThunderDan]

Tolbert , Ginn Jr., Cotchery, are also free agent signings. I think it's completely fair to point out Carolina's aggressiveness via trades and free agency, in comparison to Ted and the Pack.

Tolbert was a re-sign. Tolbert was originally an undrafted free agent to SD
Ginn Jr. - Wasn't he washed out of the league? Carolina gave up on him in 2013 after Miami and SF. Ginn Jr. was also a year in ARI
Cotchery was a 10 year vet when picked up in 2014. Dude was born with 6 fingers on one hand. No wonder he catches the ball so well.

[woodbuck27]

Wasn't it the thought at that time that Olsen wasn't a good fit for the scheme of Mike Martz or whoever was the Bear's OC at the time?

It didn't make a lot of sense to me either. It would seem that a good pass catching tight end could be useful in any scheme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Olsen_(American_football)#Chicago_Bears

He was the The 31st overall pick in the 2007 NFL Draft too.

I never judged him as a bust.

I thought that the Panthers got a steal from da Bears.

PACKERS !

[pbmax]

Pffffffffftt. Run Defense.



Bryan Frye @LaverneusDingle 2h2 hours ago
By TAY/P, top defenses versus opposing quarterbacks.

TAY/P is Total Adjusted Yards per Pass. Pass yards with deductions for interceptions and sacks.

[vince]

Pffffffffftt. Run Defense.



Bryan Frye @LaverneusDingle 2h2 hours ago
By TAY/P, top defenses versus opposing quarterbacks.

TAY/P is Total Adjusted Yards per Pass. Pass yards with deductions for interceptions and sacks.

That's a pretty strong stat. I wonder how it compares with Defensive Passer Rating...

[vince]

Pretty close. It looks like it may correlate even better. Sorry about the mess.


Rank Team 2015 Last 3 Last 1 Home Away 2014
1 Carolina 72.8 66.6 41.3 69.0 78.5 89.8
2 Kansas City 74.2 65.2 103.5 76.6 72.7 86.4
3 Denver 77.7 75.6 56.4 78.9 76.3 81.9
4 Cincinnati 78.6 75.6 73.8 76.2 81.1 77.7
5 NY Jets 79.0 66.8 82.7 79.3 78.8 101.5
6 Seattle 79.6 69.5 108.3 79.2 79.9 80.6
7 Green Bay 81.7 83.7 92.4 74.4 87.5 82.0
8 Arizona 82.3 101.5 117.4 85.9 78.9 85.8
9 Buffalo 83.3 79.6 42.7 84.4 82.1 74.5
10 Houston 83.4 67.3 98.7 80.4 86.6 80.4
11 New England 86.5 92.1 90.1 81.9 91.0 82.3
12 Oakland 86.8 76.6 71.9 91.0 83.2 96.9
13 Atlanta 86.9 87.0 103.1 80.3 94.7 88.9
14 Indianapolis 88.0 76.4 66.4 82.1 93.9 87.1
15 Pittsburgh 88.7 63.0 74.4 84.9 92.0 99.2
16 Minnesota 88.9 73.2 63.3 87.3 90.7 92.9
17 St Louis 90.4 86.8 86.7 93.6 87.1 91.8
18 Philadelphia 92.8 104.6 93.4 98.4 87.8 91.6
19 San Diego 93.8 75.7 77.5 98.8 88.9 91.3
20 Dallas 94.2 109.6 151.3 101.0 87.1 90.4
21 NY Giants 95.9 108.9 108.3 95.9 95.9 89.4
22 Washington 96.0 95.1 93.5 91.4 100.3 108.3
23 Jacksonville 97.2 96.8 76.2 91.7 101.6 99.1
24 Miami 97.4 84.9 68.8 95.2 99.2 89.7
25 San Francisco 98.1 101.2 75.7 86.1 111.1 79.5
26 Chicago 99.1 127.3 119.4 106.3 92.9 101.8
27 Baltimore 99.6 90.8 103.9 103.0 95.9 91.3
28 Detroit 100.9 99.7 97.5 104.1 97.9 84.6
29 Tennessee 101.1 97.2 77.4 103.8 98.5 93.6
30 Cleveland 101.8 109.2 102.7 95.6 109.1 74.1
31 Tampa Bay 102.3 131.1 139.3 101.1 103.4 97.2
32 New Orleans 116.2 125.2 103.2 126.2 106.1 92.9

[Rutnstrut]

Tolbert , Ginn Jr., Cotchery, are also free agent signings. I think it's completely fair to point out Carolina's aggressiveness via trades and free agency, in comparison to Ted and the Pack.

Give it up, the only answer here is that TT is god and his way is the only way.

[mraynrand]

Give it up, the only answer here is that TT is god and his way is the only way.

Bow to your Sensei!

[denverYooper]

Break the wrist, walk away.

[pbmax]

Rank	Team		2015	Last 3	Last 1	Home	Away	2014
1	Carolina	72.8	66.6	41.3	69.0	78.5	89.8
2	Kansas City	74.2	65.2	103.5	76.6	72.7	86.4
3	Denver		77.7	75.6	56.4	78.9	76.3	81.9
4	Cincinnati	78.6	75.6	73.8	76.2	81.1	77.7
5	NY Jets		79.0	66.8	82.7	79.3	78.8	101.5
6	Seattle		79.6	69.5	108.3	79.2	79.9	80.6
7	Green Bay	81.7	83.7	92.4	74.4	87.5	82.0
8	Arizona		82.3	101.5	117.4	85.9	78.9	85.8
9	Buffalo		83.3	79.6	42.7	84.4	82.1	74.5
10	Houston		83.4	67.3	98.7	80.4	86.6	80.4
11	New England	86.5	92.1	90.1	81.9	91.0	82.3
12	Oakland		86.8	76.6	71.9	91.0	83.2	96.9
13	Atlanta		86.9	87.0	103.1	80.3	94.7	88.9
14	Indianapolis	88.0	76.4	66.4	82.1	93.9	87.1
15	Pittsburgh	88.7	63.0	74.4	84.9	92.0	99.2
16	Minnesota	88.9	73.2	63.3	87.3	90.7	92.9
17	St Louis	90.4	86.8	86.7	93.6	87.1	91.8
18	Philadelphia	92.8	104.6	93.4	98.4	87.8	91.6
19	San Diego	93.8	75.7	77.5	98.8	88.9	91.3
20	Dallas		94.2	109.6	151.3	101.0	87.1	90.4
21	NY Giants	95.9	108.9	108.3	95.9	95.9	89.4
22	Washington	96.0	95.1	93.5	91.4	100.3	108.3
23	Jacksonville	97.2	96.8	76.2	91.7	101.6	99.1
24	Miami		97.4	84.9	68.8	95.2	99.2	89.7
25	San Francisco	98.1	101.2	75.7	86.1	111.1	79.5
26	Chicago		99.1	127.3	119.4	106.3	92.9	101.8
27	Baltimore	99.6	90.8	103.9	103.0	95.9	91.3
28	Detroit		100.9	99.7	97.5	104.1	97.9	84.6
29	Tennessee	101.1	97.2	77.4	103.8	98.5	93.6
30	Cleveland	101.8	109.2	102.7	95.6	109.1	74.1
31	Tampa Bay	102.3	131.1	139.3	101.1	103.4	97.2
32	New Orleans	116.2	125.2	103.2	126.2	106.1	92.9