2015-16 Non Packer Playoffs

[Cheesehead Craig]

Is anyone else getting concerned about free agency after this upcoming year?
Sitton, Lang, Bakhtiari, Lacy are all FA's that offseason

Not about Lacy.

[mraynrand]

Fair point. Though I would argue Aaron's age should dictate a little more aggresive offseason activity the next few years. Holding on to younger guys with upside becomes less ideal as our window to make another title run begins to close. Not a cap expert by any means, but I thought we have flexibility in that regard.

Yep. TT should make a stab at a championship in the next two years, and look for a key piece or two any place he can because 1) Rodgers is getting older 2) Rodgers' contract will run out in a few 3) if Hundley progresses, but not enough to replace at Rodgers' level, you are going to have a downturn 4) TT is reaching the end of his own run.

TT needs his Wolf 2000 year right now - a great draft with 4-5 starters and a key veteran pickup like Ahman Green.

But aggressiveness could also look like 2009 - a move up to get a key piece like Matthews. But you have to be right. You put fewer eggs in your basket and a spoiled one or two will kill the whole meal (see Mike Sherman, GM for example(s) )

[Patler]

Yep. TT should make a stab at a championship in the next two years, and look for a key piece or two any place he can because 1) Rodgers is getting older 2) Rodgers' contract will run out in a few 3) if Hundley progresses, but not enough to replace at Rodgers' level, you are going to have a downturn 4) TT is reaching the end of his own run.

TT needs his Wolf 2000 year right now - a great draft with 4-5 starters and a key veteran pickup like Ahman Green.

But aggressiveness could also look like 2009 - a move up to get a key piece like Matthews. But you have to be right. You put fewer eggs in your basket and a spoiled one or two will kill the whole meal (see Mike Sherman, GM for example(s) )

Didn't TT do that in 2014 when he went out and signed Peppers and Guion, and used a first round pick for HHCD? The area that needed help the most was defense. Peppers was a big name, and expensive. Guion had been a starter the last two years in MN. There was a big hole at safety, and he used his first draft pick to plug it. Significant investment and change at all three levels of the defense by free agency and the draft. He supplemented that with a somewhat expensive chance on Raji, overpaying for how he had played the last couple years, but hoping the position change back to NT would justify a single year contract. The return on that was 0, because Raji missed the season, but the chance was taken.

[ThunderDan]

TT needs his Wolf 2000 year right now - a great draft with 4-5 starters and a key veteran pickup like Ahman Green.

Did he do this in 2015? Randall (I know an ankle biter), Rollins, Montgomery and Ryan. Then throw in the potential of Hundley.

Ripkowski is solid on special teams for a 6th rounder. Ringo and Beckman are wait and see prospects for 2016.

[ThunderDan]

TT needs his Wolf 2000 year right now - a great draft with 4-5 starters and a key veteran pickup like Ahman Green.

Did he do this in 2015? Randall (I know an ankle biter), Rollins, Montgomery and Ryan. Then throw in the potential of Hundley.

Ripkowski is solid on special teams for a 6th rounder. Ringo and Beckman are wait and see prospects for 2016.

The Packers had 4 of the top 20 free agent signings in 2015 even though they were all Packers at the time.

[woodbuck27]

Didn't TT do that in 2014 when he went out and signed Peppers and Guion, and used a first round pick for HHCD? The area that needed help the most was defense. Peppers was a big name, and expensive. Guion had been a starter the last two years in MN. There was a big hole at safety, and he used his first draft pick to plug it. Significant investment and change at all three levels of the defense by free agency and the draft. He supplemented that with a somewhat expensive chance on Raji, overpaying for how he had played the last couple years, but hoping the position change back to NT would justify a single year contract. The return on that was 0, because Raji missed the season, but the chance was taken.

This season turned out being a huge disappointment.

I cannot recall another like it since the 1980's.

I hope TT agrees and does what he can to get the packers a real shot next season because we'll likely lose some key pieces to ouir 'O' to FA after the 2016-17 Season.

A key to this realistically is choosing between DT's BJ Raji and Guion for the DL. Maybe he'll ensure he can retain both?

Will Aaron Rodgers restructure if needed to permit such things. What's ARod's commitment ?

The same goes for CM III ! The way Brett Favre optioned too without much success.

If he let's go of Julius Peppers and $$$$ will be a major factor and that decision between partied. Can he move to bring in a comparable or superior player?

Are we really set in the Defensive Backfield?

Where will TT find an upgrade at TE?

What's right for the team and protecting Aaron Rodgers blind side and LT?

How will TT address the issues and the RB position?

With Jordy Nelson's return. How is the depth at WR ...really?

What's TT's plan and the BEST way to utilize CM III? For what...2-4 years we've identified BIG need and the middle of our LBer Core. Is TT going to HOLD with what's presently on the Roster and inside LBer?


GO PACKERS ! GO PACK GO !!

[Patler]

The Packers had 4 of the top 20 free agent signings in 2015 even though they were all Packers at the time.

Those don't count because, well, they just don't. If TT had let Cobb and Bulaga walk, and then signed a similarly expensive WR and OT, it would have satisfied his critics because he would then have been "active" in free agency. My gosh, he would have signed a couple of the top 20! One of the best tackles available! (Never mind that he lost similar players).

Signing your own is so boring.

He hasn't learned his lesson, either. He should have let Daniels go, then used the $ to sign someone from another team. You know, a real free agent. And not a guy like Peppers, because, you understand, he wasn't really a free agent either. Never mind that he had no contract, and was free to sign with any team he wanted to.

[Patler]

[SIZE=1][COLOR="#008000"][COLOR="#2F4F4F"]This season turned out being a huge disappointment.

I cannot recall another like it since the 1980's.

For me, 2011 was much more of a disappointment than this year.

[yetisnowman]

2 things. I feel like people are overvaluing Guions skills a little bit. And are people really insisting Peppers is not an example of a free agent acquisition?

[mraynrand]

Didn't TT do that in 2014 when he went out and signed Peppers and Guion, and used a first round pick for HHCD? The area that needed help the most was defense. Peppers was a big name, and expensive. Guion had been a starter the last two years in MN. There was a big hole at safety, and he used his first draft pick to plug it. Significant investment and change at all three levels of the defense by free agency and the draft. He supplemented that with a somewhat expensive chance on Raji, overpaying for how he had played the last couple years, but hoping the position change back to NT would justify a single year contract. The return on that was 0, because Raji missed the season, but the chance was taken.

Good argument. I don't disagree. TT's only mistake was keeping Bostick on the roster.

[Joemailman]

Is anyone else getting concerned about free agency after this upcoming year?
Sitton, Lang, Bakhtiari, Lacy are all FA's that offseason

And Tretter. At least one of the 4 O-Linemen won't be back. Not sure who. Sitton is the oldest, but also the best. Lang is one of MM's favorite players. Bakhtiari and Tretter are the youngest. Health could be an issue in the decisions they make.

I have no idea what Lacy will do.

[mraynrand]

Did he do this in 2015? Randall (I know an ankle biter), Rollins, Montgomery and Ryan. Then throw in the potential of Hundley.

Ripkowski is solid on special teams for a 6th rounder. Ringo and Beckman are wait and see prospects for 2016.

The Packers had 4 of the top 20 free agent signings in 2015 even though they were all Packers at the time.

Need a few more years to be sure, but it seems promising. Rollins/Randall analogous to Clifton/Tauscher? Still No Ahman Green....

[mraynrand]

I have no idea what Lacy will do.

Eat. And eat some more.

[mraynrand]

For me, 2011 was much more of a disappointment than this year.

Yep. Fart in the wind territory.

[Patler]

2 things. I feel like people are overvaluing Guions skills a little bit. And are people really insisting Peppers is not an example of a free agent acquisition?

No body is suggesting Guion is a star, but he was signed as a free agent and was good enough to come in and start all 16 regular season games in 2014. So if the idea is to use free agency to fill holes in the roster, Guion is an example of TT having done that.