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  • Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
    Can't really blame Miller. He's offended that the Broncos offered him 10+ mil LESS guaranteed money than guys like Olivier Vernon and Justin Houston received.
    Yup, and we know that most of the "big" contracts don't make it to the final couple of years. The only thing the players can really do to protect their financial interest is maximize the guaranteed money.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

    -Tim Harmston

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    • If Miller sits I have no sympathy for Denver. They went out and bought a SB team by signing a bunch of FAs and now the clock is about to strike midnight. Boo Freaking hoo.

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      • Originally posted by Pugger View Post
        If Miller sits I have no sympathy for Denver. They went out and bought a SB team by signing a bunch of FAs and now the clock is about to strike midnight. Boo Freaking hoo.
        Plenty of teams only wish they could pull off what Denver did. The list of failed 'bunch of FAs' attempts is long. They managed two SB berths, taking home the trophy once. And actually, didn't destroy the team in the process, I don't think they have any more holes to fill than any other team in a usual off-season. Of course, one of the holes is QB, which is the one spot you can't go shopping for.
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        • Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
          Can't really blame Miller. He's offended that the Broncos offered him 10+ mil LESS guaranteed money than guys like Olivier Vernon and Justin Houston received.
          That's the regular FUD being spread around. Neither of those guys got $10M more guaranteed at signing.

          Miller's offer was $39.8M fully guaranteed, to be paid out over two years.

          Vernon got $40M fully guaranteed at signing, to be paid out over the first two years. The rest of the 'guarantee' Vernon got doesn't come into effect until the 3rd day of the league year in 2018.

          Houston is a similar story, $32M guaranteed at signing, $35.5M paid out over the first two years. The final $10M of his 3rd year salary doesn't get guaranteed until the 2017. One way he did make out better is that part of his 2017 salary became guaranteed this year.

          Miller can choose to be offended all he wants, but Denver placing the exclusive tag on his limited his option more than the other two.
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          • Originally posted by Pugger View Post
            If Miller sits I have no sympathy for Denver. They went out and bought a SB team by signing a bunch of FAs and now the clock is about to strike midnight. Boo Freaking hoo.
            I agree........on other hand...KUDOS to Elway for buying a SB, and having it work !!!!!!
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
              I agree........on other hand...KUDOS to Elway for buying a SB, and having it work !!!!!!
              Yes, bully for them that they bought a SB. But was the price worth it? We shall see...

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              • Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                Yes, bully for them that they bought a SB. But was the price worth it? We shall see...
                Of course it was worth it. The SB is the ultimate prize everyone is shooting for, and they got it. So what if they are down in 2016? When was the last time any team repeated as SB champ?

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                • This is my opinion and my opinion only, winning 1 Super Bowl would not be worth another decade like the 70s. No way no how. Not saying that is what Denver has done or what is going to happen to them.

                  Yeah, we beat Chicago once this year is not the yardstick a franchise should have but that was all I remember wanting growing up and rooting for the Pack.
                  But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                  -Tim Harmston

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                  • Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                    This is my opinion and my opinion only, winning 1 Super Bowl would not be worth another decade like the 70s. No way no how. Not saying that is what Denver has done or what is going to happen to them.

                    Yeah, we beat Chicago once this year is not the yardstick a franchise should have but that was all I remember wanting growing up and rooting for the Pack.
                    I agree with that, but there is no real reason for any downturn to last that long. It only takes about four years to completely turnover an NFL roster, and you can effectively turnover much of it in just a few years. We'll see how Denver handles that part of it.

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                    • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      I agree with that, but there is no real reason for any downturn to last that long. It only takes about four years to completely turnover an NFL roster, and you can effectively turnover much of it in just a few years. We'll see how Denver handles that part of it.
                      Agreed. The 70's Packers (which I thankfully was blissfully unaware of) were the result of continued fuck-ups, and fuck-ups cleaning up the initial fuck-ups, of near Cleveland Brown's proportions.

                      The bigger issue is taking that shot, and missing, which is a much more frequent occurence...ask the Eagle's 'Dream Team'about that, and there are many more examples, many coming out of Washington and Dallas. I think Elway was more lucky than good, and had a few key pieces fall his way.
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                      • Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 11h11 hours ago
                        #Bears coach John Fox told reporters WR Marquess Wilson re-fractured his foot and will have surgery early next week.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • Allegedly, a guy Sanchez knew from his church took him for $7M, Jake Peavy and Roy Oswalt for $30M.

                          http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ncial-advisor/

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                          • Andrew Luck signed a new deal. Schefter and RapSheet disagree on whether its a 5 year extension or a new 6 year deal. But here are the particulars:

                            Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 4m4 minutes ago
                            More Andrew Luck numbers: $87M in guarantees... $60M fully guaranteed by Mar. of 2017, $81M by 3/18, $87M fully guaranteed by 3/19

                            Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 58m58 minutes ago
                            #Colts QB Andrew Luck's 5-year extension pays him $75M over the first 3 years, source said. Slightly less over final 2 years.

                            Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 21m21 minutes ago
                            And one of the best parts of the deal for Andrew Luck. Scheduled to be a free agent again at 32. Another big bite of the apple awaits.

                            DOUBT IT. HE IS ALREADY TAKING AN INCREDIBLE BEATING.

                            Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 30m30 minutes ago
                            Before today, richest guarantees were $65 million given to Eli Manning and Philip Rivers. Colts gave Andrew Luck $87 million in guarantees.

                            Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 32m32 minutes ago
                            Details on Andrew Luck deal:
                            5-year extension (6-year deal).
                            Just north of $139 million (a record).
                            $87 million in guarantees (a record).

                            Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1h1 hour ago
                            On his 5-year extension, #Colts QB Andrew Luck is now the highest paid player in the NFL, source said. Puts him over Joe Flacco's $22.1M.

                            Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 45m45 minutes ago
                            For clarity's sake: Andrew Luck signed a new 6-year deal, rather than a 5-year extension to add on to his old deal (1 yr, $16.2M left).
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • With Luck's deal, we'll never be able to afford to keep Rodgers in 2 years, especially if he goes back to MVP form. It just may make more financial sense to trade him.
                              All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                              • Anyone else feel like Luck has already plateaued as a QB?
                                Originally posted by 3irty1
                                This is museum quality stupidity.

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