The Packers will sign at least one, probably 2 free agents starters in 2016.

[mraynrand]

Are you seriously asking, or being sarcastic? ..

(# and quality of UFAs lost) - (# and quality of UFAs signed)

Thanks for the response. Makes some sense. I honestly thought it was based on what you lost. That equation does't work for teams who only acquire... ??

[Patler]

Thanks for the response. Makes some sense. I honestly thought it was based on what you lost. That equation does't work for teams who only acquire... ??

The system is designed to compensate teams that lose players as a result of the FA system. If a team only acquires players, it has no impact on them. If a team gains as many as it loses, no compensation is needed either because the FA system didn't really harm them.

[smuggler]

Fucking browser.

I don't know the specifics, and really no one outside the league does. The usual (reliable) sources have House near the borderline but being a 4th anyway. Williams is safe as a 4th.

[woodbuck27]

Hello Mario Williams.

$$$$ Big $$$$

[pbmax]

Number of compensation picks awarded has money involved in both calculations.

If you lose a replacement level player (with a small contract) he does not qualify in the calculation. Only certain FAs qualify.

Then among the qualified FAs, its the difference between lost and signed to determine number of picks.

Then contract comes back to help sort who gets what picks.

It has been reported, though never publicly confirmed, that Ted likes not losing the comp pick with street free agents. How much value he puts on that, I have no idea.

[Joemailman]

Projection of 2016 comp picks: Tramon and House both projected as 4th round. Tramon is the highest 4th round pick. http://overthecap.com/projecting-the...y-draft-picks/

[Patler]

Fucking browser.

I don't know the specifics, and really no one outside the league does. The usual (reliable) sources have House near the borderline but being a 4th anyway. Williams is safe as a 4th.

It will be interesting when the charts come out showing "lost" and "signed" for each team, so we can see who signed offsetting FAs.

For what it is worth, according to Sportrac:

House - #23 in total contract value, #29 in average/year, #23 in guaranteed $ (5 tied).
Williams-#28 in total contract value, #23 in average/year, #23 in guaranteed $ (5 tied).

[Patler]

Projection of 2016 comp picks: Tramon and House both projected as 4th round. Tramon is the highest 4th round pick. http://overthecap.com/projecting-the...y-draft-picks/

Interesting. Many of the players on the Sportrac list of all signings are not on the overthecap projection for draft picks, so must be offset by their former team signing FAs.

[Tony Oday]

I think we will sign an ILB, Guard and an Elite WR.

[Patler]

I think we will sign an ILB, Guard and an Elite WR.

Guard?

[Tony Oday]

Guard?

Yup, seems like our MO.

[mraynrand]

Guard?

I think TT will draft a guard for sure.

[woodbuck27]

Are you seriously asking, or being sarcastic? (Voice inflection is difficult to interpret through written words!)

Strictly speaking, if you lose more UFAs than you sign, you should receive compensation for the difference. Also strictly speaking, if you sign as many as you lose, regardless of contract size, you will not receive compensation. In reality, it has not always worked out that way, and determining the level of compensation has been sort of a balancing act:

(# and quality of UFAs lost) - (# and quality of UFAs signed)

This year they lost two who signed large contracts indicating high quality (supposedly, playing time and post season honors also are factors in the calculation). Theoretically they will get two draft picks, both of which should be toward the higher end of the awardable picks. If the Packers had signed an UFA to a similar contract, it would likely would have offset one they lost and the net result would have been just one pick to the Packers.

It sometimes gets muddled, because rules require that 32 picks be doled out, no more, no less. If there are insufficient FA signings for compensation, the remaining picks are to be awarded in order of draft priority. I don't think that has ever happened. What does sometimes happen is that picks are lowered based on signings. If the Packers lost House and Williams but signed two real low level UFAs, they might have gotten one or two low round picks instead of the higher ones they are likely to get after signing no one.

What also seems to happen sometimes is that a team who has a net loss of 3 or 4 players receives fewer but higher picks than you might expect. For example, if there was a net loss of 4 that you thought might be worth 2 sixth and 2 seventh round picks, they might get 3 in the sixth, instead. It all depends on how active the market was, because only 32 picks can be awarded.

Not all losses are subject to compensation, and the league has never explained where the cutoff is. I think it varies from year to year, depending on how active the FA market was, so they can award the 32 picks. However, historically an UFA who signs a one-year minimum contract has not be compensated for, so the Packers will get nothing for the loss of Jamarii Lattimore.

Long and short of it is that if you sign a decent unrestricted free agent, it is likely to lower or eliminate a compensatory pick you might have otherwise received for a free agent you lost.

A solid explanation Patler.

Thanks.

[Joemailman]

Guard?

In American and Canadian football, a guard (G) is a player who lines up between the center and the tackles on the offensive line of a football team on the line of scrimmage.[1]

The guard's job is to protect the quarterback from the incoming defensive line and linebackers during pass plays, as well as creating openings (holes) for the running backs to head through. Guards perform speed blocking and "pulling"—sprinting out in front of a running back in order to block for him. Guards are automatically considered ineligible receivers, so they cannot intentionally touch a forward pass, unless it is to recover a fumble or is first touched by a defender or eligible receiver.

Right guards (RG) is the term for the guards on the right of the offensive line, while left guards (LG) are on the left side. Guards are to the right or left of the center.

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[Patler]

I think TT will draft a guard for sure.

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Draft, sure. Sign as a FA? I doubt it, at least not the "real" FAs people are clamoring for (you know, expensive, from another team, with a recognizable name....oh....and with an expired contract, not a terminated contract).