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[Patler]

He definitely was more inaccurate this year. There were reports of INTs during camp, but it really came to a head in Game 6. And he did come to not trust himself which is why a lot of those bad INTs were double clutched.

But he was not interested in making tight window throws much of the time and I think that comes down to trust. Often a tight window throw is a result of a timing route. If the QB had to spot the small window, they would a) not see it in time and b) not choose to throw it there.

Cobb doesn't get many throws on timing routes. He shakes and bakes to get open. He is a reaction receiver. Abby got similar action, but by reading the coverage right and getting to the right spot with a good route. Also had some slants which probably doesn't bode well for his long term health.

Oddly, once it was clear Adams was having a lost season, the next most common WR to get contested throws was Janis. Some were hail mary types, but he got several over the middle he had to fight for position to get. Including a few nice slants. Rodgers was the other getting contested throws, but not in tight windows, just against tight coverage.

I just hope Janis is not on the 5 year James Starks plan to improve as a receiver.

One big difference this year was AR's unwillingness to throw into smallish opportunities after he had bolted from the pocket. In years past, he uncorked some unbelievable throws on the run, putting the ball in perfect places. This year he didn't commit on those. Time and time again the announcers would say no one was open as they showed a wide angle view; and many times I could pick out a player that AR would have hit with a laser shot in years past.

AR couldn't hit Janis on a long throws worth a darn this year. He over threw him a few times, but mostly underthrew him, some that ended up being long completions he stopped or came back for, and a couple ended up in PI calls. I am so accustomed to seeing Rodgers hit those that it was frustrating at times when Janis did get behind DBs but Rodgers couldn't get the ball to him. But AR threw those differently this year, putting much more air under them. Remember the one early in the year, about which Janis said he never picked up the ball because it was so high?

Far moe times this year than normal, Rodgers didn't see guys who were open. Remember the throw of the MS Surface? There was more than just a few of those.

[yetisnowman]

We have been to the NFC Championship Game 3 times in ten years. We won 1 and lost 2 in OT. Over that save time frame 2 other teams have made 3 NFC Championship games. That would be Seattle Seahawks and SF 49ers.

PS- I have won a $250,000+ pot in the WSOP Main Event checking on every street. You might have even seen me on EPSN during the 2006 Main Event coverage.

You said you won the pot in the main event. Then in another post you said you cashed in that tourney for 95,000. Sorry it was confusing.

[pbmax]

He made a read of Peanut Tillman on that play that turned out to be erroneous. Instead of Peanut jumping the hot receiver, the Packers got exactly what they wanted out of the route. He misread the D, that has happened before, though not as often as this year.

But having no time to reset and find someone else on that play was also something else that happened more often this year.

When he came off his first read and had time, he often did not find anything to his liking. That also happened more often this year.

When he found someone on a reset or on the move, his throw was more often inaccurate this year that previously.

The five percent increase in each event cascades, halts drives, depresses scoring and taxes the defense. But no one particular event is catastrophic. In years past, a 40 yard completion to Nelson reduces the number of plays needed.

[Fritz]

No, that is not at all what I have been saying.

I do firmly believe that in 2015, he did not play up to the standard we have come to expect. Not even close. I think that was a lot of the cause for the steep slide of the offensive performance. However, I do not know if that will continue into 2016 or not.

IF it does, the Packers will have to become a different team than they have been so far under Rodgers

IF he returns to form, or close to it, the offense will recover just fine.

However, there is no way to really know until we see him next year. He is at an age where his skills MIGHT begin to decline. Not all QBs can play effectively until 38-40. For some, it ends in their mid-30s.

The troubling thing to me is that there was talk during training camp that Rodgers was "off". Maybe his off season prep was different, and less effective. Maybe the calf was still an issue in his off season prep. Maybe the knee he had scoped was bothering from the start. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

There certainly is no guarantee. I think it was Boomer Esiason who said the off season does funny things to a player as they get older. Things were fine at the end of the season. They come back in August, and all of a sudden some things just aren't there. Maybe Rodgers had that this year, and he refused to acknowledge it, so did not adapt. Maybe even if "something" is gone, he can adapt this next season to compensate.

However, just as it has been for the last 25 years for the Packers, success next year will depend on the play of the QB. If Rodgers is no better or effective that he was this year, GB will not be a legitimate contender.

So yea, I think a lot hinges on Rodgers next year. But, at this point, I have no ide where it will go, up or down.

I said that exact thing to my wife the other day.

[ThunderDan]

You said you won the pot in the main event. Then in another post you said you cashed in that tourney for 95,000. Sorry it was confusing.

I have played in the Main Event 4 times. I have played in 9 other WSOP events. I play at the WSOP Circuit Event in Hammond, IN annually. Hadn't gone out to the WSOP for about 5 years since last summer because of the ban on online poker and not being able to get my nut together. Use to play at PokerStars and FullTilt a lot.

[Carolina_Packer]

The sarcasm is noted.

I'm otherwise in agreement and the rest of your post.

PACKERS and Super Bowl or BUSTED !

Thanks, didn't mean to sound sarcastic, only to note that our standards are high, so a bad year for the Packers is when Rodgers looks human, but they still go 10-6 and make the playoffs. It's weird to go from making it look too easy in 2014 to making it look too hard this past off-season, for all the reasons people are mentioning here. What a mental game it must be for a QB. it's still better than having Brian Hoyer as your QB, or being one of the have nots as far as having "The Man".