Jared Cook

[wist43]

See Frank Wycheck. http://www.pro-football-reference.co...W/WychFr00.htm

3 Pro Bowls.

Wycheck was a decent player - never put up monster numbers.

Pro Bowls are relative... Jamies Winston played in the pro bowl this year.

Fisher's offenses have been notoriously pedestrian - and that might be an insult to the term pedestrian.

[King Friday]

See Frank Wycheck. http://www.pro-football-reference.co...W/WychFr00.htm

3 Pro Bowls.

Wycheck's Pro Bowl caliber success as a receiving TE was largely due to the fact that those Tennessee teams had NOTHING at WR. In those 3 Pro Bowl seasons, Wycheck led the team in receptions each season...and no one else on the team had more than 65 receptions. Wycheck was less of a weapon and more of the only guy on the team capable of reliably catching the damn ball...and if I remember correctly, the vast majority of his work was within 5-10 yards of the LOS.

Fisher has never actually had a dynamic, field stretching TE with success that I can recall.

[wist43]

Wycheck's Pro Bowl caliber success as a receiving TE was largely due to the fact that those Tennessee teams had NOTHING at WR. In those 3 Pro Bowl seasons, Wycheck led the team in receptions each season...and no one else on the team had more than 65 receptions. Wycheck was less of a weapon and more of the only guy on the team capable of reliably catching the damn ball...and if I remember correctly, the vast majority of his work was within 5-10 yards of the LOS.

Fisher has never actually had a dynamic, field stretching TE with success that I can recall.

Fisher has never had a dynamic offense in any form... nobody produces much. QB's, RB's, WR's, TE's... Fisher coached teams are an offensive wasteland.

[pbmax]

I think we are selling Wycheck slightly short. He wasn't a 3rd level injury replacement for a Pro Bowl starter each year. He was 2nd team All Pro in 2000.

He was not deep threat but he was death to defenses on 3rd downs. From 1995-2005, here are the TEs active and their Approximate Value from PFR:

                                                Game Game Misc Misc Misc Misc
Rk                     From   To  Draft  Tm  Lg    G   GS  Yrs   PB  AP1   AV
1        Tony Gonzalez 1997 2005   1-13 KAN NFL  143  127    9    7    4   81
2      Shannon Sharpe* 1995 2003  7-192 TOT NFL  125  122    9    5    3   75
[B]3        Frank Wycheck 1995 2003  6-160 OTI NFL  137  127    9    3    0   50[/B]
4         Wesley Walls 1995 2003   2-56 TOT NFL  128  109    9    5    0   48
5           Ken Dilger 1995 2004   2-48 TOT NFL  156  150   10    1    0   42
6       Marcus Pollard 1995 2005        TOT NFL  162  120   11    0    0   41
7        Freddie Jones 1997 2004   2-45 TOT NFL  123  112    8    0    0   35
8           Ben Coates 1995 2000  5-124 TOT NFL   94   84    6    4    1   32
9        Alge Crumpler 2001 2005   2-35 ATL NFL   78   67    5    3    0   32
10          Kyle Brady 1995 2005    1-9 TOT NFL  167  152   11    0    0   31
11       Antonio Gates 2003 2005        SDG NFL   45   41    3    2    2   30

Gates would obviously be much higher but only his first three years are here.

[Smidgeon]

One of my big weakness as an observer of NFL football is my tendency to favor players that are real studs or have big games when I actually see the game. I had that experience last fall. The Bengals played the Rams in Cincy. My seats are behind the visiting teams bench. The Rams have quite a few stud players on their roster. None more impressive than Jared Cook. When the Rams came to the sideline, everyone commented "Looka that sumbitch".

He's 6'5" 255 and yoked. One of the more physically imposing TE's in the league, like seeing megatron for the first time. The game was a dud, the Bengals receivers ate up the St LOO defense, Cincy 31 Rams 7. But Cook was very impressive. The Bengals backline couldn't handle Cook. He took a little seam route about 25 yards, running Bengal safeties the f over, man. Very impressive, but 4 grabs for no TD's was his bottom line. I definitely blame QB Nick Foles for Cook's lack of production. Several times, Cook was wide open on seam or deep dig routes and Foles would throw a duck to a different (usually covered) WR. Cook can be a devastating blocker. On a couple very effective angle blocks by Cook, the rookie RB Gurley made too wide a cut off the block and gained minimum yardage.

Several of us fans were amazed that Cook was used so poorly.

There is another aspect to Cook that is troubling. When he was ignored on an early 3rd down situation, he merely trotted to the sideline, like he had no cares in the world. Many TE's would be in the young QB's face, telling him to get him the ball. Is Cook a vet that doesn't disrupt the team for personal production? Or is he just a guy drawing his paycheck?

I know he is a hoss and would fit well in say Q's spot. But he would be worth the gamble? That I don't know. He's no kid, he's 28. He's not a" looks like Tarzan plays like Jane" guy. But he is a player that doesn't hit his athletic potential, for whatever reason. In the right spot on a team that uses the TE, I really feel he would yield a huge jump in production. I think the GBP would be that kind of football team. I just couldn't guarantee Cook would deliver.

I felt that Cooks play in that game would have been doubled with a Rodgers, Brees, Brady- type QB tossing him the ball.

I wouldn't be disappointed with a new TE, an ILB, & a punter were added to this next season's roster.

Would Cook be a positive addition to the club? I think so, but can't say for sure.

Visions of Finley pre-injury running through my head.

[woodbuck27]

Visions of Finley pre-injury running through my head.

Picking Jared Cook up in FA would be a prudent move by TT but I'll be surprized if he does.

[BZnDallas]

Picking Jared Cook up in FA would be a prudent move by TT but I'll be surprized if he does.

Depends on the almighty dollar Wood. I'm just hoping one of these TEs fall thru the stupid money free agency crack. Jared Cook, Dwayne Allen (injury history), or even Larry Donnell. All under 30 guys who might be lower budget type. Just see guys like Green or Fleener getting longer deals and bigger money. Actually Cook is probably more big money too.

[denverYooper]

NM. But he's been a free agent for a week and a half now and there's been little mention of interest in signing him.

[pbmax]

Vernon Davis!!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/28/what-went-wrong-with-vernon-davis-in-denver/

“I think that the coaches kind of go in different directions at different times and how things mix and we could never really get up to speed with him,” Broncos G.M. John Elway told Pro Football Talk on NBCSN at the Scouting Combine. “He did come in late in the year, so whether he didn’t feel comfortable with what we were doing and what we could get him in situations, we tried to get him in situations to be successful. But then again it comes down to making those calls during a game and where he had a chance. So that’s another area we’ll look at, tight end’s a position we have to look at, still very fluid that we feel like we have to get better there.”

So good and talented he must be replaced.

[Bretsky]

Vernon Davis!!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/28/what-went-wrong-with-vernon-davis-in-denver/

So good and talented he must be replaced.

He went to a team with a jello armed QB who also had a TE (who was available to us if we chose to sign him) who ended up producing some.

Just because he rotted with Noodle Arm doesn't mean MM would not have been able to find a way to use his speed.

[Bretsky]

And I'm not arguing at this point we should have signed him

But Elway takes the flyer on guys. And it paid off

[pbmax]

Did Osweiler have any better luck with him?

Fact is even though Delanie Walker was out there, there were more busts at FA TE than hits. Risk is much closer to draft than people remember. Cost is much higher. Only advantage is selecting position regardless of record.

[Patler]

Vernon Davis is a guy people keep making excuses for. For the first three years of his career, he was mediocre at best and a big disappointment for a high 1st round pick. He then had three good years in which he seemed to have arrived. But his success didn't last, and his last four years have included one average to mediocre year, one decent year and two poor ones.

Basically he has had a disappointing career for a high draft pick, except for 3-4 years in 10 total, and he is now 32 years old..

[3irty1]

I know beggars shouldn't be choosers but Delanie Walker isn't my idea of fixing the TE position. He's an H-back. He would have been nice to have but I'd still have a traditional big target inline TE on my wishlist.

[Patler]

He went to a team with a jello armed QB who also had a TE (who was available to us if we chose to sign him) who ended up producing some.

Just because he rotted with Noodle Arm doesn't mean MM would not have been able to find a way to use his speed.

As a big target and as a TE he should have been all the more valuable, especially with a smart jello armed Noodle Arm.