Again, I watched MattStaff today, and he looked a lot better than Rodgers has looked lately. Are his receivers more open? Maybe. I don't know. He and Stafford were both threading the needle today.
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Stafford has been benefitting from Jim Bob Coter's offense, as dumb as that seems to say.Originally posted by Fritz View PostAgain, I watched MattStaff today, and he looked a lot better than Rodgers has looked lately. Are his receivers more open? Maybe. I don't know. He and Stafford were both threading the needle today.
Rodgers is being slowly strangulated by M3's refusal to attack man coverage with pattern combos, motion and receiver positioning.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Hunter Henry is in the concussion protocol.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostBretsky NEVER made any mention of wanting Suh; it's not hard to figure out who I wanted in the past because I always post it. You won't find too many team killers on my list.
Captain Obvious players you may or may not remember would be Odell Smash Mouth Thurman, AJ Hawk, The Dirty Crab over BJ Raji, Brooks Reed, Erik Kenricks, Calvin Prior, Ryan Shazier, and Hunter Henry among others..............
As far as being s skirt chaser......yes........I love chasing skirts. But they are not team killers......well.........Odell Thurman might have been but the rest aren't.
Neither is Hunter Henry
And it's time IMO to hold TT accountable for his inflexible ways that seems to be making us a fart in he wind.
Weak head!Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Originally posted by Bretsky View PostBretsky NEVER made any mention of wanting Suh; it's not hard to figure out who I wanted in the past because I always post it. You won't find too many team killers on my list.
Captain Obvious players you may or may not remember would be Odell Smash Mouth Thurman, AJ Hawk, The Dirty Crab over BJ Raji, Brooks Reed, Erik Kenricks, Calvin Prior, Ryan Shazier, and Hunter Henry among others..............
As far as being s skirt chaser......yes........I love chasing skirts. But they are not team killers......well.........Odell Thurman might have been but the rest aren't.
Neither is Hunter Henry
And it's time IMO to hold TT accountable for his inflexible ways that seems to be making us a fart in he wind.
Wait a minute.
Which Tedways are inflexible?
He signs a FA TE this offense, a player acquisition method that you once staged an avatar protest to encourage. Now that Cook got injured, you suddenly want him to rely solely on the draft?
Make up your mind!Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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pb, you are a confusing individual. You defend stubby all the time, yet you also criticize him.Originally posted by pbmax View PostStafford has been benefitting from Jim Bob Coter's offense, as dumb as that seems to say.
Rodgers is being slowly strangulated by M3's refusal to attack man coverage with pattern combos, motion and receiver positioning.
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Nope. Reality is complex and not easily solved with binary choices.Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Postpb, you are a confusing individual. You defend stubby all the time, yet you also criticize him.
Both Rodgers and McCarthy have issues right now. But there are very few better than either.
So you can punt one or both, but the odds you improve your team are tiny. Far better odds that the team gets worse.
So you work with them to get them out of their funk.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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This I agree with. I think they are both Top 5 in their respective categories (at least). How many teams have both in the Top 5? or even Top 10? The odds are stacked against getting better in either spot, and definitely stacked towards getting worse in both. Right now there isn't a divide between coach and GM. I don't want to see one either. Those are never good for the team.Originally posted by pbmax View PostNope. Reality is complex and not easily solved with binary choices.
Both Rodgers and McCarthy have issues right now. But there are very few better than either.
So you can punt one or both, but the odds you improve your team are tiny. Far better odds that the team gets worse.
So you work with them to get them out of their funk.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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Don't you understand, you MUST either worship the player or coach and find no fault with him whatsoever, or despise him and advocate for his ouster.Originally posted by pbmax View PostNope. Reality is complex and not easily solved with binary choices.
Both Rodgers and McCarthy have issues right now. But there are very few better than either.
So you can punt one or both, but the odds you improve your team are tiny. Far better odds that the team gets worse.
So you work with them to get them out of their funk.
I first began questioning Rodgers decision making at the end of 2014. You may recall that I critiqued their last drive in the Seattle playoff game, play by play, arguing that he made poor decisions on many of the plays. I dismissed it as maybe due to his calf injury, but I wasn't sure how that changed what he saw and decided, because he seemed to still throw well and run to some extent. I was roundly criticized for wanting him gone. In fact, I just wanted him to play better.
During 2015 I raised many questions about Rodgers' share of the blame for the failing offense, and during the off season said the start of 2016 would tell us if 2015 was an aberration or a new normal for Rodgers that had to be accepted if unchangeable or dealt with if correctable. Manny seemed to consider me a lunatic for wanting to get rid of Rodgers, when in fact I just wanted him to play better, or for MM to adapt.
But, that is never an option. You can not want to keep a coach/player/GM yet still be dissatisfied with some aspect of what they do. It simply is not allowed.
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Originally posted by Patler View PostDon't you understand, you MUST either worship the player or coach and find no fault with him whatsoever, or despise him and advocate for his ouster.
I first began questioning Rodgers decision making at the end of 2014. You may recall that I critiqued their last drive in the Seattle playoff game, play by play, arguing that he made poor decisions on many of the plays. I dismissed it as maybe due to his calf injury, but I wasn't sure how that changed what he saw and decided, because he seemed to still throw well and run to some extent. I was roundly criticized for wanting him gone. In fact, I just wanted him to play better.
During 2015 I raised many questions about Rodgers' share of the blame for the failing offense, and during the off season said the start of 2016 would tell us if 2015 was an aberration or a new normal for Rodgers that had to be accepted if unchangeable or dealt with if correctable. Manny seemed to consider me a lunatic for wanting to get rid of Rodgers, when in fact I just wanted him to play better, or for MM to adapt.
But, that is never an option. You can not want to keep a coach/player/GM yet still be dissatisfied with some aspect of what they do. It simply is not allowed.
I see that my years of quiet tutelage have finally paid off, Patler.
This is a monumental moment. We can take a moment to appreciate the immensity of what you've done here. Yet we cannot be satisfied. We cannot simply stop here.
Next, work on your phrasing. Turn "I just wanted him to play better" into "Rodgers sucks!" Turn "I wanted MM to adapt" into "MM is stuck in a rut!"
Once you've developed a harsher phrasing, we can work on larger generalizations and harsher criticisms. Then we'll work on your ability to criticize no matter what Rodgers or MM or Thompson does, and no matter how the season turns out. Don't let any Packer success get you down. If you are diligent in your efforts, you'll find it's possible to criticize any and all of them roundly, even if they win the Super Bowl!
Still, let's not lose sight of what you've accomplished today. This is a big first step. Big.
PB, I hope you were watching all of this. I think that if Patler can make such a transition, I don't see why you can't, too."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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COME ON MANOriginally posted by pbmax View PostWait a minute.
Which Tedways are inflexible?
He signs a FA TE this offense, a player acquisition method that you once staged an avatar protest to encourage. Now that Cook got injured, you suddenly want him to rely solely on the draft?
Make up your mind!
I'm not hard to figure out. I'd like to see a consistent blend of free agency, trades, and the draft. I praised the Cook signing but let's not mistake that for anyting Ted did even on a remotely consistent basis. 1 trade the the past six years......it's draft and develop in here along with an occasional free agent signing to shock the world. Bring Elway to Green Bay. Bring Schneider to Green Bay. Hell, I'll take Eliot Wolf in Green BayTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Originally posted by Bretsky View PostCOME ON MAN
I'm not hard to figure out. I'd like to see a consistent blend of free agency, trades, and the draft. I praised the Cook signing but let's not mistake that for anyting Ted did even on a remotely consistent basis. 1 trade the the past six years......it's draft and develop in here along with an occasional free agent signing to shock the world. Bring Elway to Green Bay. Bring Schneider to Green Bay. Hell, I'll take Eliot Wolf in Green Bay
Just jokes baby, just jokes.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I am pretty sure that trading your All-Pro center for an All-Pro TE to be used in an offense that is not TE friendly will eventually pay off for John Schneider and the Seahawks. And then the warrior-king GM will be back!Originally posted by Zool View PostYou want the 90's brand of GM back. It doesn't exist anymore.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Originally posted by Zool View PostI always knew RutnStrut was totally gay for Stubby.
Let's start calling a spade. TT is an average GM. Struck gold with Rodger and the Claymaker. Has been ok besides that. I'd just like an upgradeTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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