Sleeper and Under the Radar Prospects

[Carolina_Packer]

Couple of interesting guys...

Matt Judon, Grand Valley State, 6'3", 275 lbs, 4.73 (40).

Shilique Calhoun (great name!!), Mich. State, 6'4", 251 lbs. Showed well at the combine.

Two strong candidates. Some might argue that you can't call Calhoun a sleeper (for sure) or even under the radar. But I could see arguing for him as an under the radar, because other guys get more love and pub than he does, but if you look at his game tape, the guy is extremely disruptive. Judon is definitely an under the radar to me. I'm not breaking down their games on the web. The guy's get off is impressive, and at times he looks unblockable.

As far as this thread goes, any player profiled doesn't necessarily have to be someone the Packers should be interested in, just someone who might either be unknown to most, possibly overlooked, that we should pay attention to in the lead up to the draft.

[run pMc]

KF, the problem with that stable of WR's is that there is only one legitimate flanker in the group, Nelson; and, we all saw how devastating his loss to the offense was. Janis may be able to win outside, but we simply don't know. Adams was a mess last year; Cobb is strictly a slot and gimmick guy; and so too Abby maybe.

If a legit flanker prospect is there at any pick, TT would be wise to jump on him b/c having another legitimate outside threat would do wonders for the offense as a whole.

Is Doctson worth a 1st round pick??

I'm with KF on this one. Unless a really good prospect is sitting there (and I like Sterling Shepard a lot) I think TT goes the UDFA route to get more WRs in camp and goes with the 6 he has. I think a dedicated WR coach will help, Janis will get more snaps outside, and that getting a healthy Jordy, Adams, and Montgomery back will help. Also, I didn't see a lot of great speed at WR at the combine, so you'd think they'd be better off signing James Jones -- he's slow, but at least he knows the offense and Rodgers.

Wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota grabs Doctson.

[Carolina_Packer]

Many know the top-rated TE prospects like Hunter Henry, Jerell Adams, and Nick Vannett. Here are more value guys, but deserving of attention.

1) Beau Sandland/Montana State (transferred from the U): http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2016&genpos=TE

Looked decent at the Combine

2) Tanner McEvoy/WI: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2016&genpos=TE

Could add some weight to his frame and hopefully not lose speed. This guy seems like they type of player who would be great on special teams and could be developed as an offensive weapon. There's an it factor about this kid. Could be a boom or bust kind of guy, but if a team has an idea how to use his talents, who knows? He has run in the 4.5 range.

3) Adam Fuehne/Southern IL: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2016&genpos=TE

6-6, 260 and looks like he has some athleticism. He's likely a college free agent, but you got to like big guys who can run a bit and have some athletic ability.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Many know the top-rated TE prospects like Hunter Henry, Jerell Adams, and Nick Vannett. Here are more value guys, but deserving of attention.

1) Beau Sandland/Montana State (transferred from the U): http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2016&genpos=TE

Looked decent at the Combine

2) Tanner McEvoy/WI: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2016&genpos=TE

Could add some weight to his frame and hopefully not lose speed. This guy seems like they type of player who would be great on special teams and could be developed as an offensive weapon. There's an it factor about this kid. Could be a boom or bust kind of guy, but if a team has an idea how to use his talents, who knows? He has run in the 4.5 range.

3) Adam Fuehne/Southern IL: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2016&genpos=TE

6-6, 260 and looks like he has some athleticism. He's likely a college free agent, but you got to like big guys who can run a bit and have some athletic ability.

Sandland is a good athlete, but I was disappointed in his brick hands at the combine. I haven't seen any rankings that project McEvoy getting drafted. I haven't even heard of the third guy.

[pbmax]

Is this guy still a sleeper or has he climbed past the seventh round by now? From Mike Tanier and Bleacher Report:

Doughty put on a show during passing drills on Saturday, routinely pinpointing passes with a quick, consistent release and enough velocity. The performance verified Doughty’s game tape. He consistently anticipates open receivers and hits them in stride on shorter routes.

Doughty isn’t huge (6'3" but 213 pounds, with a wiry frame), lacks a cannon arm and runs just well enough to get out of his own way. But he threw 97 touchdown passes (!) in two years in Jeff Brohm’s Hilltoppers offense, which wasn’t as loaded with spread-option gadgetry as you might expect upon hearing that an unheralded quarterback threw for 97 touchdowns in two years in it.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2620199-mike-taniers-combine-notebook-brandon-doughty-climbs-the-board

[Carolina_Packer]

NFL Draft Scout has him as the #12 rated QB: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2016&genpos=QB

I'd say he's under the radar, and perhaps not a sleeper since he passed for over 5K and they were in a bowl game, so he had some pub. The spread scheme that they ran will probably cause some to doubt, and say he's the dreaded system QB.

Speaking of TE's (nice segue, huh?), Tyler Higbee was Doughty's TE at Western KY, and stands 6-6, weighs 250 and runs 4.7. Here is a video, featuring Higbee, with Brandon Doughty as his QB. I read that Higbee has big hands and would make an excellent red zone threat. He's rated #5 by NFL Draft Scout, so he's only under the radar because he played at Western KY.

How do you think Tyler Higbee compares to Hunter Henry? NFL Draft Scout projects Higbee as a 4th rounder and Henry as a 2nd rounder. That makes Higbee a TT special.

[smuggler]

Did Matt Judon attend the combine? He looks impressive in that video.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Is this guy still a sleeper or has he climbed past the seventh round by now? From Mike Tanier and Bleacher Report:





http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...imbs-the-board

I'm not a Doughty fan. He's a terrible athlete and lacks arm strength. I have an undrafted rating on him. Higbee is intriguing though.

[Carolina_Packer]

I'm not a Doughty fan. He's a terrible athlete and lacks arm strength. I have an undrafted rating on him. Higbee is intriguing though.

Would you consider him a poor man's Hunter Henry? You never know with any of these guys. They go to a team that doesn't have a good QB situation or has a lot of turnover in the coaching staff, and a highly touted guy can disappear. Sometimes it's more about opportunity than how you were rated coming out. I'd like to see more video on Higbee. He seems to have a feel for running routes, and seems to even break some tackles.

[run pMc]

I'm not a Doughty fan. He's a terrible athlete and lacks arm strength. I have an undrafted rating on him. Higbee is intriguing though.

Based on Higbee's highlights, he doesn't look bad, and I'm not sure he's 2 rounds worse than Henry. I noticed Doughty in those highlights -- seems like he has good pocket awareness. Don't know enough about him.
When I saw Ty Montgomery's highlights last year I thought his QB (Kevin Hogan?) was garbage. Do not like that guy....this Doughty guy looked better to me.

[KYPack]

Yeah, I'm a Higbee fan. Tall and fast with solid hands. He a real "football sense" guy. Always fights for the open part of the field to turn 6 yards into 30. Yer right, he breaks solid tackles and keeps going. I go to WKY 4 times a years and Hilltopper games are the only thing on TV out there.

WKU is the new place of employment for former Packer Brian Brohm, he's the new QB coach (Bro Jeff is the HC).

[HarveyWallbangers]

Yeah, I'm a Higbee fan. Tall and fast with solid hands. He a real "football sense" guy. Always fights for the open part of the field to turn 6 yards into 30. Yer right, he breaks solid tackles and keeps going. I go to WKY 4 times a years and Hilltopper games are the only thing on TV out there.

WKU is the new place of employment for former Packer Brian Brohm, he's the new QB coach (Bro Jeff is the HC).

How do you feel about Doughty? He's getting some hype as a sleeper, but I just don't see it.

[Carolina_Packer]

Yeah, I'm a Higbee fan. Tall and fast with solid hands. He a real "football sense" guy. Always fights for the open part of the field to turn 6 yards into 30. Yer right, he breaks solid tackles and keeps going. I go to WKY 4 times a years and Hilltopper games are the only thing on TV out there.

WKU is the new place of employment for former Packer Brian Brohm, he's the new QB coach (Bro Jeff is the HC).

Hey KYP, the more mock drafts I read, I see Higbee going to us in the 4th round. I really wasn't aware of this guy, although once I started thinking about it, I do recall seeing the Vandy game last year vs. WKU and Higbee was someone they had trouble covering; sneaky, a good route runner and good hands. My father-in-law went to Vandy, so we watch some of their games. Their offense is not good, but their D is respectable, and Higbee jumped out.

He does seem like a TT pick. If he ended up going to Green Bay and proving himself, nobody is going to care that we could have picked Hunter Henry, plus it's likely Higbee could be had 2-3 rounds later.

[KYPack]

How do you feel about Doughty? He's getting some hype as a sleeper, but I just don't see it.

He ain't athletic at all. He broke loose on a scramble last year and my cousin said he should have gotten a penalty for "delay of game". Jeff Brohm is his coach from the deadly "Bobby Petrino" tree of coaching. Lotta screens, half roll-outs, shallow crosses, shit that ain't run in the pro's. Not much of an arm, but a sharp understanding of the game and real dart thrower in the short passing game.

Undrafted or 7 that should be ecstatic about catching on a PS someplace.

He will be in somebodies camp for a look-see.

[wist43]

Did Matt Judon attend the combine? He looks impressive in that video.

Judon was at the combine. His numbers were: (amongst DE's)

40 - 4.73 (5th)
Bench - 30 reps (2nd)
Vertical - 35" (3rd)
Broad Jump - 9'1" (24th)
Shuttle - 4.52 (15th)
3 Cone - 7.67 (22nd)

CBS and NFLDraftscout both have him as a 4th round pick...

My guess at this point is that TT will use his regular 4th round pick as ammo to move up in rds 1 or 2, knowing that he has those 2 4th round comp picks in his pocket. Don't know if Judon would still be there at our comp picks.