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  • #91
    Originally posted by Fritz View Post
    Remove him? Clearly you aren't paying attention - Guion, Quarless, Pennel, Goodison.

    Higbee's "Packer People" now!
    He's one of Jerry's Kids now.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
      Slight bump...http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...r-on-nfl-radar This guy was under the radar for sure, unless your satellite feed carries German football games. Can you imagine TT using a comp. pick in the 4th round on this guy? The article says a scout from Packer was at Florida Atlantic's pro day. Hey, I bet he'd feel right at home in Wisconsin! Beer, cheese, brats, what more do you need?
      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
      4th round would be too high for this guy. Athletically, he is similar to Janis. The guys is a bit taller, but Janis tested equally as well, and his measurabled are more trustworthy--since he tested at the combine. Also, Janis had more experience. The highlights on him are worthless--since he's going against high school caliber talent.
      Packers had him in for a visit:

      http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...kers/82953630/

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      • #93
        Ach du liebe Zeit!
        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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        • #94
          Wir haben die methoden daß Sie sprechen machen werden.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
            Wir haben die methoden daß Sie sprechen machen werden.
            It was an interview, not an interrogation! (But I suppose for Germans there's no distinction between the two)
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • #96
              Thoughts on this guy:

              James Cowser -

              http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...8/james-cowser

              Would probably be a OLB in Packers Defense. He just fits a later round TT pick.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by pittstang5 View Post
                Thoughts on this guy:

                James Cowser -

                http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...8/james-cowser

                Would probably be a OLB in Packers Defense. He just fits a later round TT pick.
                I looked at him a few weeks ago... I don't think he can make it. He's a stiff athlete with no special traits. Not much tape to look at on him, but what I did look at didn't impress.
                wist

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                • #98
                  Cowser had a great cone drill at the combine. His time of 6.8 was better than any DE or OLB. I know it's just a drill, but it would suggest he has some agility. His 40 time was not very good for an OLB.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
                    #Temple WR Robby Anderson (6-3, 190) is visiting #Packers. At pro day, ran 4.3 in 40, had 36.5 vertical. Led team in catches, yards, TDs.
                    He looks like a possible mid round selection.

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                    6-foot-3, 175-pound

                    and

                    It is noteworthy to add that Anderson went through corner drills during his pro day workout, which might be the position some teams project his future. ......
                    Apr 11 - 8:26 AM

                    Last Season's stat's:





                    Here's some video on Robbie Anderson YouTube (published 2014 and 2016):

                    He's certainly athletic.....




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                    • The Packers need to bring in more than one ILB prospect during and after the draft. LARRY BUTLER III, INSIDE LINEBACKER, SOUTHERN NAZARENE UNIVERSITY is a guy that you likely have not heard of. I went to CBSSports and NFL.com to see if he was listed there, and he was not. I think they had him listed at 6-0, 250 lbs. I could see him as one of those priority free agents that ends up flashing in training camp.



                      Larry Butler III excerpt from http://bigeasybeliever.com/2016/01/1...rs-and-gems/4/ (written from a Saints fan perspective)

                      Last year in the 2015 NFL Draft, NFL scouts went crazy over tiny Hobart University offensive guard Ali Marpet, who ended up being taken in Round 3 by Tampa Bay, after an impressive showing in the Senior Bowl and the subsequent NFL Scouting Combine.

                      NFL Draft Zone.com Draft Analyst Dan Turner says that Southern Nazarene University linebacker Larry Butler III is this year’s Ali Marpet — an “enforcer”-type of middle linebacker who could fit in a 4-3 or 3-4 defense quite easily.

                      Butler III committed to SEC school Tennessee after coach Derek Dooley made a strong push to land him. Unable to attend due to an academics issue, Butler opted to attend Eastern Arizona Junior College.

                      While being heavily recruited by other SEC schools, Butler III was unable to sign with any because of the SEC’s “three-semester rule”, preventing players from transferring until they’ve been at the same junior college for three consecutive semesters.

                      This led him to committing to New Mexico State University. Unfortunately, Eastern Arizona didn’t release his transcript in time, causing him to be ruled ineligible for the 2013 NCAA football season. After missing the season, his Division I eligibility was quickly fading away.

                      Still hanging his dreams of playing in the NFL, Larry Butler decided to take his talents to Division II. With offers from Southern Nazarene, Henderson St. West Georgia, West Texas A&M and Lincoln University Butler finally settled with Southern Nazarene.

                      While Southern Nazarene isn’t the first place you would consider playing football, Larry loved the “christian environment” SNU provided and made the small Oklahoma City school his home.

                      Butler III is “scheme versatile” and could play on the weakside (where the Saints have an obvious need at the moment) but may have some potential as a 4-3 SAM / OLB, where he can be used also as a pass rusher.

                      Turner says that Butler III is an effortless mover across the ground, with good straight line speed. This speed gives him good rundown speed from the backside of plays, and allows him to make plays all down the field. He has extremely smooth hips, which allow him to change direction at speed, and curve runs tightly.

                      Turner adds that what is even more impressive is that it is RARE to see a small school prospect have instincts and athleticism, but Butler has that. He can see through blocks to anticipate plays, which allows him to thrive in and behind the line of scrimmage.

                      Despite some flaws in the way he backpedals and moves laterally, he sticks with it — meaning that he keeps his shoulders squared and his eyes forward, which allows him to react to what he sees in front of him.

                      Butler III also understands his own limitations, and compensates for them in how he plays. It’s so obvious that he has a nose for the ball, and you will rarely ever see him far from it, whether it be behind the line of scrimmage, on either sideline, or downfield.

                      The biggest issue with him is his tendency to move early in an attempt to make plays, as opposed to keeping his feet hot, reading the play, and then reacting. An even bigger problem for Butler III at the next level could be with pass coverage, since he can be late reacting to throws, and allows catches.

                      He also struggles at times in man coverage, and can allow separation. But where he is good though is carrying receivers downfield, as he does a great job of turning his hips late, so he can watch the QB. Turner cautions that another issue at the next level is that he fails to turn his head with receivers to locate the ball, but adds that is easily coachable over time.

                      In the bigger picture, the overall talent nearly LEAPS out at you when you watch the tape on this kid; and unquestionably he has a future in the NFL, especially if he lands with the right team where is he is allowed to develop.

                      With the Saints looking to further upgrade their LB corps, this young man could be yet another “small school gem” on the Saints’ list of successes (Colston, Bushrod, Evans, Armstead, Khiry Robinson, etc.) over the years to excel at the NFL level.
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                      • So, this guy is not as unknown or unheralded as Larry Butler (immediately above), but Javon Hargrave, DL, SC State, 6-2, 309 could be the type of player the Packers had in Cullen Jenkins during the 2010 season.



                        He could learn a lot from Mike Daniels and with Datone Jones possibly moving to OLB, Hargrave could be a nice depth player who could rotate in nicely.

                        Latest on NT Javon Hargrave including news, stats, videos, highlights and more on NFL.com
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                        • IIRC Hargrave did well at the East/West Shrine week and got a last minute invite to the Senior Bowl. (Or was it the combine?) If he's under the radar, it's just barely.

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                          • Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                            If he's under the radar, it's just barely.
                            I go yes on that point, because he played at SC State, and he is not one of the first names you think of in the more high-profile names/schools like Sheldon Rankins, Andrew Billings, etc. Hargrave is close. I think he's very scheme versatile.
                            "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                            • The Packers would seem to have a full stable of WR's with Jordy coming back from injury, however, competition is always a good thing. I think this guy could be sneaky good in the pros. He's not a sleeper, per se, but I do believe he's under the radar. He played at Colorado State and he's the number 10 ranked WR according to CBSSports.com. I also say under the radar because he's not in that group that usually gets talked about like Treadwell, Doctson, Coleman, Boyd, etc., but I think he is talented enough to make the Packers roster and be quite productive.

                              The Packers need a productive receive to be added to the roster not the productive receiver. If they can get a guy like this in the third round, that would be just what the WR group needs.

                              Profile:

                              http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...ashard-higgins

                              Excerpt that talks about what makes him special: http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2016/0...shard-higgins/

                              Where Higgins wins is in his route-running, as the receiver has refined footwork and hip fakes to get defensive backs to open up the gate early and create space. Higgins thrives with subtle stems in his patterns, gliding down the field without decelerating in and out of his breaks. He’s a one-speed receiver without great burst in his cuts, but Higgins’ feet are smooth and coordinated, allowing the playmaker to separate at all levels of the field.
                              Video Highlights:



                              If he's there in the third round, I think they should think about taking him. The only knock I see is that he never returned kicks or punts, which isn't the end of the world, but would be a nice skill set to bring to the table as a depth WR.
                              "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                              • Originally posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
                                Video Highlights:



                                If he's there in the third round, I think they should think about taking him. The only knock I see is that he never returned kicks or punts, which isn't the end of the world, but would be a nice skill set to bring to the table as a depth WR.
                                There's some good stuff in that video for sure - and as always, some really bad DB play! Tough to tell how good a guy is when he's catching the ball and no one is within arms reach of him.

                                Seems he has strong hands, can catch in traffic and works for some YAC. However, didn't go over the middle much, and he made guys miss a lot...something that doesn't work so well in the NFL, that stutter step gets you caught from behind. If he goes 10th though, he'll barely make it to the top of the 3rd round, forget being there when the Pack picks.
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