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    Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 4m4 minutes ago
    #Packers CB Casey Hayward confirms to JS a verbal agreement has been reached with #Chargers.

    Seven or eight months ago, I would have thought this meant a catastrophic injury or a player mad at the team. But the team managed to get better and not need him in that span of time instead.

    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
    For the #Chargers and CB Casey Hayward, it's a 3-year deal worth $15.3M, source said.
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  • #2
    So it would have cost 5 million per year to keep our (at best) 3rd cb. I'm okay saying goodbye, and thank goodness tt didn't resign him earlier last year like I had hoped he would.
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    • #3
      5th round compensation pick?
      Seriously, Casey wasn't the same after the injuries. Decent player, very good as a slot corner, but there was no spot for him here with Randall and Rollins playing as they did, with room to get better. I wish him well except if he plays against GB.

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      • #4
        $5M is it? Seems like a lot, but of course I have to wrap my head around the new reality the higher cap brings. He was a good role player, but seems to me that he was maybe...the 4th best CB on the team? 5th? I put Shields and Randall firmly ahead of him, and neck in neck with Rollins. Goodson and Gunter have some potential, I'm not sure I see a spot for him.

        Similar to House, Pack got him on a rookie contract for a few years and will get the pick back next year. He looked to be very promising, but never played as well as he did in his first season.
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        • #5
          I usually trust TT and even understand having to let Casey go. My one thought on it is, Ted plans to let him leave after his rookie contract so he can get a comp pick for him. Casey was a second rd pick. 2s arent even given as comp picks and I cant see him bring a 3rd. 4th might be stretching it too. A 5th or 6th round comp pick for a 2nd rounder seems like a loss of value. Not TTs style. Anyway like I said, I usually back TT, but this seems a lil odd. Before FA started could Casey have been signed for 3.5 mil per year? Not sure, speculation anyway. A 2 for a 5 or 6. Meh
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          • #6
            Good point Run. Didnt think about injuries bringing his skill down a notch perhaps. Guess thats the price of business in the league.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Guiness View Post
              $5M is it? Seems like a lot, but of course I have to wrap my head around the new reality the higher cap brings. He was a good role player, but seems to me that he was maybe...the 4th best CB on the team? 5th? I put Shields and Randall firmly ahead of him, and neck in neck with Rollins. Goodson and Gunter have some potential, I'm not sure I see a spot for him.

              Similar to House, Pack got him on a rookie contract for a few years and will get the pick back next year. He looked to be very promising, but never played as well as he did in his first season.
              Yes he looked great in his first season but never got to growing as a Green Bay Packer.

              Maybe the change in scenery will help his career. We are looking good at The important CB position but I'm seeing the potential for TT to get a decent DB in the draft.

              Edit !

              Thanks Joe. I thought there was something wrong with that. ......but NOT like.... there are all kinds of John Smith's.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                Yes he looked great in his first season but never got to growing as a Green Bay Packer.

                Maybe the change in scenery will help his career. We are looking good at The important CB position but I'm seeing the potential for TT to get a decent DB in the draft.

                CB's that TT might be able to chose in Rounds 3 and 4:


                Eric Rowe, CB/FS, Utah ... Height: 6-1. Weight: 205... 40 Time: 4.45.


                Quinten Rollins, CB/FS, Miami (Ohio) ...Height: 5-11. Weight: 195... 40 Time: 4.57... NOTE: He might be better suited as a FS in the NFL..


                Alex Carter, CB, Stanford ...Height: 6-0. Weight: 196...40 Time: 4.51.
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                P.J. Williams*, CB, Florida State ... Height: 6-0. Weight: 194... 40 Time: 4.57.

                4/25/15: Williams hurt his draft stock with a DUI arrest in the final weeks before the 2015 NFL Draft. At the Combine, he ran a little slower than expected. He may slip into Round 3 or 4.


                Steven Nelson, CB, Oregon State ... Height: 5-10. Weight: 197. ...40 Time: 4.49.


                D'Joun Smith, CB, Florida Atlantic... Height: 5-10. Weight: 187. ...40 Time: 4.45. ....He has the speed and athleticism to be a cover corner. In College QB's avoided throwing the ball where he was positioned to defend.


                Doran Grant, CB/S, Ohio State... Height: 5-10. Weight: 199. ...40 Time: 4.44.
                Reliable in pass coverage. Grant has press-man experience and also looks like he could play off-man or zone coverage.
                Grant had a strong showing at the Combine as he ran fast and looked good in the field drills. Grant also did well in the bench press (21 reps). He could play corner or free safety in the NFL.


                Senquez Golson, CB, Ole Miss ...Height: 5-8. Weight: 178. ...40 Time: 4.46. Too short !?
                Golson was one of the most dangerous cornerbacks in the nation in 2014. He was an interception machine for the Rebels. Golson showed excellent instincts and ball skills. Smart with how he baited quarterbacks into throwing picks. [BGolson had 10 interceptions, the second highest total in the nation[/B]. The senior also notched 41 tackles with eight passes broken up. He went on to have a decent week at the Senior Bowl and run well at the Combine. He could be a good nickelback in the NFL.


                Reference:

                Read more at http://walterfootball.com/draft2015C...kiHiJktKaiX.99
                These are last year's prospects. We already drafted Quinten Rollins once.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  These are last year's prospects. We already drafted Quinten Rollins once.
                  I'd draft him again so we could have two QRs
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                  • #10
                    I was hoping Hayward would land a contract similar to House, and thought he might based on more playing time than House over his first four years. I figured he would bring a 4th round comp pick, but I doubt that will be the case with a 3 yr./$15M contract. Looks like a 5th for him, if the Packer don't sign anyone to offset it.

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                    • #11
                      Dang, now we need to draft somebody I think. I think this was a pretty decent deal for a good slot corner.

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                      • #12
                        5th round comp pick (quite likely a 4th) makes it a wash, when you consider opportunity cost of his salary.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                          Dang, now we need to draft somebody I think. I think this was a pretty decent deal for a good slot corner.
                          Corners - Shields, Randall, Rollins, Goodson, Gunther, Daniel and Hyde if they need him.

                          Safeties - Burnette, HHC-D, Banjo and Hyde if they need him.

                          The need at DB is not great, but if they can find someone to slot above the bottom 3 CBs, take him.

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                          • #14
                            Ahh, forgot about Shields. Was thinknig Randall and Rollins would be the starters and Hyde at the slot. My Bad.

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                            • #15
                              Is Goodson any...well...good? I know they like him on ST, but IIRC he's a late bloomer (he's 26) and still rough around the edges. Shields usually misses a couple of games per season, and in a passing league you can't have too many CB's. That said, keeping Hayward didn't make sense for the money when they have all the young guys.

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