Another possible reason for Arod's struggles this year

[mraynrand]

I'm talking about on the sideline, pregame, talking to the o-line, d-line, whomever it may be.....smacking their pads, trying to fire them up. Do you see Aaron doing that often?

All the time. Every game I've been to he seems to be working with and encouraging others on the sideline. Before the game, in warm-ups and during the game with the defense on the field. If not, then he's taking instruction from coaches or sometimes just sulking and pouting.

[mraynrand]

I just found that last year, and last year only, I was bothered by the frequency he was whining and visibly annoyed/frustrated. That's all . If you disagree, fine. Not a big deal.

I saw that body language too, especially after missed throws or dropped throws. You could tell there were times when he was pissed at someone for running the wrong route and pissed at himself for missing a throw. I don't have stats, but I have the impression that when Rodgers screws up he holds his helmet from both sides with his hands and when someone else screws up he shakes his head in disgust or gestures at the receiver.

[Joemailman]

I'm not talking about celebrating after a score. I'm talking about on the sideline, pregame, talking to the o-line, d-line, whomever it may be.....smacking their pads, trying to fire them up. Do you see Aaron doing that often?
Also, if Aaron had 6 superbowl appearances and 4 rings....I would find it much easier to pay no mind to these kind of things.

You're judging Rodgers based on what you've seen, and haven't seen from him when he's on television. You and we are not in the clubhouse. We're not at practice. We don't really see him during the half of the game when the defense is on the field. 2 years in a row the Packers have lost a playoff game in overtime where the Packers offense didn't get to take the field in overtime because the defense couldn't make a stop. This after he had led the offense to a tying score late in the game. As frustrating as that must have been, I didn't hear one negative word from Rodgers about that. Sometimes leadership is what you DON'T do. I saw him play the NFC Title Game on 1 leg against the best defense in the NFL. That's leadership. Last year I heard him say in post-game PC's that the banged-up offensive line had played fine when in reality they hadn't played fine. He stood up there and took the heat. That's leadership. He's not perfect. Last year was a frustrating year and at times his frustration showed. That makes him less than perfect, but it's not a lack of leadership.

[RashanGary]

AR had a down year. Now we need to see if it was the new normal for him, or a one year aberration.

Yep!

[George Cumby]

I saw that body language too, especially after missed throws or dropped throws. You could tell there were times when he was pissed at someone for running the wrong route and pissed at himself for missing a throw. I don't have stats, but I have the impression that when Rodgers screws up he holds his helmet from both sides with his hands and when someone else screws up he shakes his head in disgust or gestures at the receiver.

I propose we start keeping stats so we can quantify our imperfect, partial and tragically flawed data set.

IMO, we should start with the following categories, feel free to contribute or not:

1) Pursed Lips
2) Eyeroll
3) Head Shake

A) Rueful

B) Disgusted

C) What da' Fuq, Janis?

4) Hand to Forehead
5) Double hands to Helmet
6) Any Combination of Two of the above
7) Any Combination of Three or More of the above

[KYPack]

I propose we start keeping stats so we can quantify our imperfect, partial and tragically flawed data set.

IMO, we should start with the following categories, feel free to contribute or not:

1) Pursed Lips
2) Eyeroll
3) Head Shake

A) Rueful

B) Disgusted

C) What da' Fuq, Janis?

4) Hand to Forehead
5) Double hands to Helmet
6) Any Combination of Two of the above
7) Any Combination of Three or More of the above

Ya got a half a laugh out of me.

Good post, George.

[mraynrand]

I propose we start keeping stats so we can quantify our imperfect, partial and tragically flawed data set.

IMO, we should start with the following categories, feel free to contribute or not:

1) Pursed Lips
2) Eyeroll
3) Head Shake

A) Rueful

B) Disgusted

C) What da' Fuq, Janis?

4) Hand to Forehead
5) Double hands to Helmet
6) Any Combination of Two of the above
7) Any Combination of Three or More of the above

This is the future of deep stats at ESPN: Total QBPR (Quarterback physiognomy rating). Until Disney sells them off, of course.

[Patler]

I'm not sure leadership comes easily to AR. I have never known a real leader to talk about being a leader as much as AR does. It's awkward at times. Some people are leaders because of who they are, others are thrust into it because of what they are. The QB has to be, AR recognizes that but at times he seems to plan it out too much instead of letting it happen. At times, it's almost like he analyzes his actions, then acts. For the best leaders it comes naturally, from who they are.

I have never been a big rah-rah guy, and I think it is a tiny part of leadership in the pro sports environment.

My concern about AR from 2015 was more on his own performance. His accuracy and vision. He didn't seem to have the same feel for the game that he has had in the past. He didn't see enough of the opportunities that were there. He didn't make his receivers better than expected, etc.

[George Cumby]

He's not a first born. Hes a middle kid. Leadership isn't a natural role for a middle.

[wootah]

He's not a first born. Hes a middle kid. Leadership isn't a natural role for a middle.

Also he is a sagittarius and according to this fridge magnet this means he can be impatient, tactless, demanding and overly critical.

[ThunderDan]

Also he is a sagittarius and according to this fridge magnet this means he can be impatient, tactless, demanding and overly critical.

We must have a lot of late November/December birthdays at Packerrats!

[mraynrand]

I think someone needs to examine Rodger's scat. I am not volunteering.

[Fritz]

I actually agree with yeti here. Arod makes buku bucks. All that eye rolling and gesturing to the heavens makes him look like a whiny 10 year old boy.

And I don't care about Manning. He's an A-hole and the Broncos carried his ass this year.

[George Cumby]

I think someone needs to examine Rodger's scat. I am not volunteering.

I'll take it for the team on this one, but someone else needs to read his entrails.

[pbmax]

^ I don't think we need to be reminded that after offseason entrails reading surgery, QBs tend to have terrible years.