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  • #76
    I was all for signing Cook the day he hit FA. I saw him play vs Cincy last fall. he was impressive, but you could see some of the troubles he was having. Early in the game, Cook ran a quick seam route. Foles hit him right on rhythm and Cook started motoring with the ball. He ran a safety over like he wasn't there and turned a short gainer into a fast 25 yard gain. The Cincy fans were worried, the Bengals have coverage issues at the safety spot. Cook went on the have 4 grabs for 50 some yards.

    But he should have had more yards than that. Cook ran a couple digs & was wide open for short yardage. I could see what was coming. Sure enough, they ran a dig and go to Cook & he was wide open. But, the crafty Foles threw the ball to the wrong man and the pass fell incomplete. I kept watching Cook, bc I figured he would go up to Foles and get in his ear about missing him on the route. Nope, he just walked back to his spot on the bench and sat down. Cook also flat out destroyed Vontez Burfict on an angle block. Tori Gurley made the wrong cut on that run and turned a 10 yard gain into a loss of a couple yards.

    It took me a bit, but I eventually figured out why Cook was so non-committal after being ignored on the pass play. Earlier in the year, the Rams blew a big lead to the Cowboys in Dallas. They came back and had a shot to win the ball game. In the last minute, Foles hit Cook btw the numbers on a slant in the end zone. Cook dropped the ball and blew the chance for the win. When Cook went to the sideline, a young back-up QB ran up to him to give him some kind of rah-rah encouragement. Cook shoved him hard, almost knocked him on his ass, ya know, "get away from me rookie". All that week, it was a big flap in the St Looey papers about what a jag off Jared Cook is, big money, dropping passes, bad teammate, blah blah. So that's why Cook wasn't going to go up to Foles, he didn't want anymore static.

    Now we got this big horse of a TE on a 1 year deal with something to prove. He can drop balls, miss blocks, but screw it, I'll take him.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Patler View Post
      Dang, he was skinny! Good thing he put on 108 pounds!
      (Just teasing Woodbuck. I make plenty of typos, too.)
      Missed that one... LOL.

      I'm just now recalling how fast I was when I weighed 146 lbs. and what I was doing in my young life. Those ...were...the...days Patler.
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      • #78
        Hey, if he misses blocks, he fits in perfectly with the rest of the Packer tight ends.

        Given the paucity of quality pass-catching TE's in this draft, it's a good signing.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by beveaux1 View Post
          Agree. Although it could use up to 3.75 million in cap space to sign next year's Packer free agents. Better option than a high draft pick when we have other, greater needs.

          I'm hoping that Jared Cook plays 'lights out great' this season.

          Of course that will be his plan so he can get that last great contract.


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          • #80
            That's all good.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
              That "project TE" guy will be TANNER MCEVOY but he'll be drafted in the 6th or 7th round, not the 4th. [TT is reading my posts here.]

              This site rates him NO. 13 out of 117 TE's:



              A possible late round pick or an UFA.
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              • #82
                The cautionary things I have seen about Cook are two fold:
                1. - He had the highest drop rate among all TEs last year.
                2. - An assistant coach who had been with one of his teams said he runs very hot and cold at practices. Said he came to work some days totally disinterested in practices, and motivating him to practice can be an issue.

                Looks like the new TE coach has his work cut out for him with all his players.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  The cautionary things I have seen about Cook are two fold:
                  1. - He had the highest drop rate among all TEs last year.
                  2. - An assistant coach who had been with one of his teams said he runs very hot and cold at practices. Said he came to work some days totally disinterested in practices, and motivating him to practice can be an issue.

                  Looks like the new TE coach has his work cut out for him with all his players.
                  I guess it depends on which site you use for your stats. According to this sportingcharts.com table, Daniels, Ebron, Eifert, and Thomas had a higher drop rate than Cook did. I don't ever visit any of the stat sites so admittedly I really don't know the criteria used by each site or which ones provide the most accurate information. It would take a lot more time and effort than I care to put into it to analyze the data sets from each site.

                  2015 numbers from sportingcharts.com

                  Player Team Receptions Drops Targets Targets % Drop %
                  Rob Gronkowski NE 72 1 120 60.00% 0.80%
                  Jimmy Graham SEA 48 1 74 64.90% 1.40%
                  Greg Olsen CAR 77 3 124 62.10% 2.40%
                  Antonio Gates SD 56 2 85 65.90% 2.40%
                  Richard Rodgers GB 58 2 85 68.20% 2.40%
                  Martellus Bennett CHI 53 2 80 66.30% 2.50%
                  Kyle Rudolph MIN 49 2 73 67.10% 2.70%
                  Ladarius Green SD 37 2 63 58.70% 3.20%
                  Zach Ertz PHI 75 4 112 67.00% 3.60%
                  Coby Fleener IND 54 3 84 64.30% 3.60%
                  Vernon Davis DEN 38 3 58 65.50% 5.20%
                  Jared Cook STL 39 4 75 52.00% 5.30%
                  Owen Daniels DEN 46 5 77 59.70% 6.50%
                  Eric Ebron DET 47 5 70 67.10% 7.10%
                  Tyler Eifert CIN 52 6 74 70.30% 8.10%
                  Julius Thomas JAX 46 7 80 57.50% 8.80%

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                  • #84
                    Why did Jared Cook choose the Packers? Two words: Aaron Rodgers. "It was imperative that I find a person who's known for getting the job done," Cook said of Green Bay's All-Pro QB.


                    (Jared) Cook: I wanted a QB known for getting the job done


                    By Marc Sessler..... Around the NFL Writer

                    Published: March 29, 2016 at 02:39 p.m. Updated: March 29, 2016 at 02:54 p.m
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                    • #85
                      Packers just need him to get open enough to scare the bejesus out of the middle of the Defense. After that, the drops are less important as each is an indication the Packers could go to him regardless of his miscues.
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Packers just need him to get open enough to scare the bejesus out of the middle of the Defense. After that, the drops are less important as each is an indication the Packers could go to him regardless of his miscues.
                        Absolutely agree pb. The potential positives he can bring to the offense far outweigh a couple of drops per year as far as I'm concerned. I think the, "drop" stat is one of the most subjective stats anyway. Did the pass hit the receiver right in the chest, did it graze off of his outstretched fingertips, etc., etc. Just about everyone who has sat around with a group of people watching a game has gotten into the, "He should have had that one."..."That was a bad pass." conversation. Hell, there should be a stat for, "Saved passes" when the QB makes a terrible throw and the receiver comes up with a damn near impossible catch anyway. They don't seem to get any credit for those type of catches but yet we see it happen in every game.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by SMBASS View Post
                          I guess it depends on which site you use for your stats. According to this sportingcharts.com table, Daniels, Ebron, Eifert, and Thomas had a higher drop rate than Cook did. I don't ever visit any of the stat sites so admittedly I really don't know the criteria used by each site or which ones provide the most accurate information. It would take a lot more time and effort than I care to put into it to analyze the data sets from each site.
                          Ya, those things can vary from site to site. I didn't get it directly from any stat site, but from an article that referenced one and said Cook's drop rate was the highest of the top XX TEs (based on # of receptions). I didn't bother to verify it, so I can't say for sure where it came from. I think I saw it in the same article as the quote from the scout about motivation, but I can't find either right now.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by SMBASS View Post
                            Absolutely agree pb. The potential positives he can bring to the offense far outweigh a couple of drops per year as far as I'm concerned. I think the, "drop" stat is one of the most subjective stats anyway. Did the pass hit the receiver right in the chest, did it graze off of his outstretched fingertips, etc., etc. Just about everyone who has sat around with a group of people watching a game has gotten into the, "He should have had that one."..."That was a bad pass." conversation. Hell, there should be a stat for, "Saved passes" when the QB makes a terrible throw and the receiver comes up with a damn near impossible catch anyway. They don't seem to get any credit for those type of catches but yet we see it happen in every game.
                            I agree with your comments about drops, if you are talking about one or two. The exact # or % isn't important, but he obviously has a tendency I think we need to be prepared for, just as we saw frequently from Finley. I don't mean it will negate his value, but it might raise our blood pressures every now and then. It would be nice if he had hands like RR.

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                            • #89
                              Agree Patler. One thing about R.R. is that he definitely seems to have good focus/concentration and reliable catching ability.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by SMBASS View Post
                                Agree Patler. One thing about R.R. is that he definitely seems to have good focus/concentration and reliable catching ability.
                                It's easier to focus on the ball when you're not moving very fast.
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