INTERESTING===PATS TRIED REGAINING THE DRAFT PICK

[Patler]

He explicitly said the sanctions were designed to act as a deterrent as well. But yes, he did mention the lack of a history with the Chiefs and tampering.

Every penalty has a deterrent component. It could be mentioned for any sanction what so ever, including a small fine to a player for wearing the wrong socks. That's the concept that Vincent was talking about, but not close to what I was referring to, an enhanced penalty given to a repeat offender because of that organization's past transgressions. That is what I would not expect the league to air very often. That is what can be harmful to their image. The fact that they design any and all penalties to have a deterrent effect is just sensible, and they are more than happy to pretend they are that.

[George Cumby]

I could see him trading down into the first 10 picks or so of the 2nd round, but not all the way down to the bottom of the second round. Especially not when his own second isn't until #57

Right. When he traded down for Nelson, that pick was close to the top of the second, iirc.

[pbmax]

We are inferring the intent of the sanction by a lack of a statement on a particular purpose.

And the boldest part of the sanction, Brady's suspension and the subsequent denied appeal, came after the rest of the League found the team portion of the penalty wanting.

The only evidence in existence seems to indicate all parties besides the Patriots, their fans and Goodell thought the Patriots should have been punished harder for past crimes.

[mraynrand]

Right. When he traded down for Nelson, that pick was close to the top of the second, iirc.

Stop gumming up the legal proceedings here with your football talk!

[Bretsky]

Bretsky;

Re: The title of this thread

By "Interesting" do you mean --surprising--? Why wouldn't they try to get it back? Wouldn't every other owner and Mark Murphy try to do the same? Isn't it to be expected when they have been given deference and kid-glove treatment in the past?

My impression was Kraft at first accepted this with some confidence this would be it. But when he figured out the NFL wanted to stick him in the @ss perhaps partly because they were not strong enough before.............he tried to get it back.

Perhaps the NFL should not have given the kid glove treatment in the first place. Won't argue there.

[Bretsky]

I could see him trading down into the first 10 picks or so of the 2nd round, but not all the way down to the bottom of the second round. Especially not when his own second isn't until #57

I think we all dream of TT doing this every year but it seem to happen once every blue moon

[swede]

I think we all dream of TT doing this every year but it seem to happen once every blue moon

A blue moon is the second full moon within the same calendar month. This happens quite regularly
within intervals of two to three years. The next one happens sometime in 2018

Jordy Nelson was born in a Blue Moon year. He turned three years old on the May 31st Blue Moon of 1988.

This coming month there will be a "seasonal" Blue Moon on May 21st...meaning the 4th full moon within a single season.

In October of this year we will have a second new moon, referred to by hip astronomer types as a "Black Moon". Lambeau Field was treated to its own Black Moon on January 9th of 2005.



Oh...and I have no doubt the Patriots will survive this punishment with their will to cheat fully intact.

[pbmax]

^Thank you Paul Harvey. Now we know, the rest of the story.

[mraynrand]

Lambeau Field was treated to its own Black Moon on January 9th of 2005.

Mraynrand is in that picture. For me, there was a goalpost eclipse of the moon.

[pbmax]

I still think it was hysterical. He's no Terrell Owens comedic genius, but he's light years ahead of Joe Cell Phone Horn.

[George Cumby]

Stop gumming up the legal proceedings here with your football talk!

Sorry. My bad.