GET HARD!!!! 2016 NFL DRAFT TODAY!!!!

[Joemailman]

http://www.draftinsider.net/reports/...B/Carson-Wentz

Carson Wentz
School: North Dakota State
Position: QB

Positive: Two-year starter awarded all-America honors as a junior. Posted 1651 yards passing and 17 TDs in 8 games last season when he missed half the year with a broken bone in his wrist. Junior totals included 3111 yards passing and 25 TDs. Smart, tough signal caller with tremendous upside. Consistent in all areas of the game. Stands strong in the pocket, displays good awareness and quickly locates the open wide out. Effectively reads the defense, remains poised under the rush and buys as much time as necessary for receivers. Effectively sets up screen passes, displays a sense of timing and does not have targets waiting on the ball. Throws with solid fundamentals, for the most part accurate and does not make receivers work hard to come away with the catch. Goes through progressions, will take the 2nd or 3rd option rather than force the ball into targets and does not have mental lapses. Possesses a big time arm, displays speed on all his throws but also puts touch on passes when necessary. Smooth rolling outside the pocket, keeps his eyes down the field and loses nothing on his throws. Spreads the ball around and uses all his receivers.

Negative: Does not do a good job sensing the backside rush. Throws with a wide base and is often high of the mark. Has limited starting experience on the small school level.

Analysis: Wentz was consistently productive under center at North Dakota State and possesses outstanding physical skills as well as mental wherewithal for the next level. He may need time before he's NFL ready and there will be bumps in the road but if properly coached Wentz should be a productive Sunday quarterback with a long career.

[Joemailman]

San Diego up. Buckner or Tunsil. Rivers got beat up last year. I'm thinking Tunsil.

[Rastak]

2. CARSON WENTZ | North Dakota State 6052|237 lbs|5SR Bismarck, N.D. (Bismarck Central) 12/30/1992 (age 23) #11
YEAR (GP/GS) CP-ATT CP% YDS TD INT CAR YDS AVG TD GRADE 1st Round 2011: Redshirted MEASUREABLES Arm: 33 1/4 | Hand: 10 | Wingspan: 78 3/4 2012: (8/0) 12-16 75.0 144 2 0 5 22 4.4 1 COMBINE 40-YD: 4.77 | 10-YD: 1.65 | 20-YD: 2.75 | VJ: 30.5 | BJ: 09’10” | SS: 4.15 | 3C: 6.86 2013: (11/0) 22-30 73.3 209 1 0 10 70 7.0 0 PRO DAY N/A (positional drills only) 2014: (16/16) 228-358 63.7 3,111 25 10 138 642 4.7 6 2015: (8/7) 130-208 62.5 1,651 17 4 63 294 4.7 6 Total: (43/23) 392-612 64.1 5,115 45 14 216 1,028 4.8 13
BACKGROUND: A no-star quarterback recruit, Wentz was vastly overlooked throughout the recruitment process because he played wide receiver and linebacker as a junior in high school (due to baseball injuries) before starting at quarterback as a senior in 2010. He received offers from a handful of FCS-level teams and Central Michigan (the only FBS program to recruit him) but Wentz stuck to his commitment to nearby North Dakota State, where his brother played baseball. After redshirting in 2011, he saw limited playing time as Brock Jensen’s back-up as a redshirt freshman and sophomore. Wentz became the starter in 2014 and led the Bison to the FCS National Title with 63.7% completions, 3,111 passing yards, 25 touchdowns and 10 interceptions, earning All-America honors. He started the first six games as a senior before a throwing wrist injury sidelined him for the second half of the 2015 season, returning for the FCS National Championship Game. Wentz finished the season with 62.5% completions, 1,651 passing yards, 17 touchdowns and four interceptions. He accepted his invitation to the 2016 Senior Bowl.
STRENGTHS: Looks the part with a tall, workable frame…above average arm strength to deliver downfield with required velocity – can make all the necessary NFL throws…tight release, especially for a player with his long arms…shifts his weight well in the pocket to work through the noise and keep his hand on the trigger, maneuvering under duress with improved footwork…functional athleticism in the pocket and as a scrambler, avoiding rushers and extending plays – throws well moving to his left and his right…has a pre-snap plan and moves efficiently from target-to-target, making sound decisions…shows the ability to recognize defensive coverages and blitzes, changing the play at the line – coaches put a lot on his plate, trusting him to make all protection calls and checks…reliable field vision pre and post snap…very smart on and off the field with excellent retention and execution skills – four-time All-Conference honor roll recipient (4.0 GPA) and unprecedented three-time recipient of the NCAA Elite 90 Award…physically and mentally tough with professional poise and work habits…great teammate and was an extra coach on the sideline while injured…set school single season records for completions (228) and passing yards (3,111) as a junior…consistent winner with a 20-3 career record as a starter and five-time FCS National Champion (twice as a starter).
WEAKNESSES: Locks onto reads with immature eye use, staring down targets and leading defenders…improved passing anticipation, but still developing his feel for timing routes – tick late and needs to speed up his reads…wide base and needs to improve his lower body efficiency…downfield and deep accuracy is inconsistent, leading or underthrowing…bad habit of pre-determining throws and forcing the ball into crowded coverage…needs to understand when the play is over and throw the ball away – 10 fumbles the last two years…on the move too much, even with a clean pocket, and will attempt throws without setting his base or coming to balance…lacks ideal starting experience for the position with questions about level of competition – 22 of 23 career starts came against FCS competition (one FBS opponent was at Iowa State: 18-for-28 for 204 yards, no touchdowns)…missed second half of 2015 season due to a broken right wrist, requiring surgery (Oct. 2015), but did return for the 2015 FCS Championship Game, leading his team to victory.
SUMMARY: A two-year starter, Wentz thrived in North Dakota State’s wide-open offense, taking snaps from under center and shotgun with several pro-style reads, including left-to-right and high-to-low progressions – didn’t consistently face top competition at the FCS level, but performed well in high pressure situations, including the 2014 and 2015 FCS National Championship Games (NDSU won both). He was only a 5-foot-8, 125 pound freshman in high school and didn’t start at quarterback until his senior year, causing him to go under-recruited (similar path as Ben Roethlisberger). Although his internal clock and eye use need maturing, Wentz performs well within structure with his strong arm and touch, but can also improvise when the play breaks down, stretching out his legs to pick up chunk yardage if it’s there (1,028 career rushing yards). He possesses a NFL-style skill-set with his size, athleticism and arm talent, including the field vision to work through reads and make sound decisions – the top senior passer in the 2016 draft class and ideally needs a redshirt rookie season in the NFL.

[esoxx]

I would take Wentz over Hundley.

[ThunderDan]

I would take Hundley over Goff.

Yeah!!

[ThunderDan]

I would take Wentz over Hundley.

Boo!!!

[esoxx]

Tough crowd in here.

[red]

i just don't get a guy who has only ever played against division 2 talent being #2 overall

sure he looks good on tape, he's playing against a bunch of guys who weren't good enough to be one of the 100 players on any of the 150 division 1 teams

huge jump up in talent from d-2 opponents to the nfl

[Rastak]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

If the draft starts here why the hell is it 7:30pm CT?

[Joemailman]

http://www.draftinsider.net/reports/2016/DE/Joey-Bosa

Joey Bosa
School: Ohio State
Position: DE

Positive: Three-year starter that's earned All-America honors since his freshman season. Big Ten Defensive Lineman of the Year in 2015 after 51 tackles, 16 tackles for loss and 5 sacks. Also intercepted one pass and broke up 4 more. Sophomore totals included 21 tackles for loss as well as 13.5 sacks. Dominant three down defensive end with tremendous upside. Fires off the snap with an explosive first step, breaks down well and plays with good pad level. Always on balance, rarely off his feet and displays excellent lateral movement skills. Quickly changes direction, pursues from the backside with speed and runs down ball handlers. Consistently plays with proper pad level, relentless up the field and strong. Knocks back bigger offensive tackles and keeps his feet and hands active throughout the action. Has opponents playing back on their heels, at times impossible to stop and a disruptive force that must be accounted for.

Negative: Occasionally takes it easy if the play's not in his immediate vicinity. Lacks great bulk and may struggle facing off against bigger offensive tackles at the next level.

Analysis: Bosa is a terrific combination of fundamentals, athleticism and natural power. He's a three down lineman with potential in a four-man front or certain one gap/three-man lines and should quickly break into the starting lineup as a rookie then immediately produce.

[Rastak]

1. JOEY BOSA | Ohio State 6052|269 lbs|3JR Fort Lauderdale, Fla. (St. Thomas Aquinas) 7/11/1995 (age 20) #97
YEAR (GP/GS) TKLS TFL SACK FF GRADE 1st Round 2013: (14/10) 44 13.5 7.5 0 MEASUREABLES Arm: 33 3/8 | Hand: 10 1/4 | Wingspan: 79 3/4 2014: (15/15) 55 21.0 13.5 4 COMBINE 40-YD: 4.86 | 10-YD: 1.68 | 20-YD: 2.83 | BP: 24 | VJ: 32 | BJ: 10’00” | SS: 4.21 | 3C: 6.89 2015: (12/12) 51 16.0 5.0 1 PRO DAY 40-YD: 4.77 | 10-YD: 1.65 | 20-YD: 2.75 | BP: 28 | VJ: 31.5 | BJ: 10’01” Total: (41/37) 150 50.5 26.0 5

BACKGROUND: A four-star recruit out of high school, Bosa was wooed by every top program in the country and passed on offers from Alabama, Florida and Florida State to head north and commit to the Buckeyes. He saw immediate action as a true freshman with 10 starts and finished second on the team with 7.5 sacks, earning Honorable Mention All-Big Ten and numerous Freshman All-American honors. A unanimous All-American as a sophomore, Bosa started all 15 games in 2014 and was the Big Ten’s Nagurski-Woodson Defensive Player of the Year, leading the conference in tackles for loss (21.0) and sacks (13.5) and helping the Buckeyes win the inaugural College Football Playoffs. He was suspended for the season opener in 2015, but started the final 12 games and led the Buckeyes with 16.0 tackles for loss and 14 quarterback hurries, adding 51 tackles and 5.0 sacks to earn Big Ten Defensive Lineman of the Year and First Team All-Big Ten honors. Bosa considered staying for his senior season to play with his brother in Columbus (incoming freshman Nick Bosa), but opted to enter the 2016 NFL Draft.

STRENGTHS: Grown-man strength with NFL build and body strength…balanced athlete with natural bend, flexibility and initial quickness…controls his momentum well and easily converts his first step to power, sinking and rushing with low pad level to put blockers on skates…athletic repertoire of rush moves with an innate understanding of how to use his hands and length to set up moves…comfortable on his feet to drop and play in space…excellent secondary quickness and doesn’t take himself out of plays due to his hustle and ball awareness – game comes natural to him…stacks and leverages blocks to stay home, hold outside contain and filter the action inside…natural core power and knows how to use it, rarely playing on his heels…very good break down skills to reset his eyes, collect himself and finish…violent striker and doesn’t miss tackles when he’s in the area…plays with a high degree of toughness and accustomed to facing double and triple teams…tryhard competitor and beats himself up after negative plays – performs angry with focus to eliminate those mistakes…reserved personality and avoids the spotlight off the field…athletic bloodlines – father (John) played defensive tackle at Boston College and was a first round pick in the 1987 NFL Draft (16th overall), playing three years in the NFL, and uncle (Eric Kumerow) was an Ohio State linebacker and captain (1984-87)…productive resume with 50.5 tackles for loss and 26.0 sacks over his 37 career starts – core member of 2015 National Championship team.

WEAKNESSES: Not a quick-twitch rusher or elite explosion athlete…still developing his body mechanics as an edge rusher and needs to improve his inside shoulder dip…too reactionary at times with room to improve his anticipation…will occasionally misread option and zone plays and needs to maintain his gap and outside responsibilities…snap discipline needs tweaked (five offsides penalties in two-game stretch in 2015)…sack production was underwhelming in 2015…suspended for the 2015 season opener due to a violation of team rules (Marijuana) – carries himself with an ultra-laidback personality, which will be a turn off for some.

SUMMARY: A three-year starter, Bosa lined up in a three-point stance, mostly at left defensive end, but also on the right side and sometimes inside as a threetechnique or standing up as a spying linebacker. He is very physically gifted, but even better, he knows how to use those gifts and works his tail off to maximize his potential. Bosa has the athletic and power traits, but it’s also his instincts, preparation and understanding of leverage that allow him to be successful, setting up his moves and recognizing scheme tendencies. He has swift, but heavy hands to beat blockers with upper and lower body quickness, creating separation and seeing through bodies to make stops – Ohio State defensive coordinator Luke Fickell probably said it best: “there’s nothing he can’t do.” Although he might not be a consistent double-digit sack artist in the NFL, Bosa is a scheme-versatile player with the dominant traits to consistently impact the game vs. the pass and the run at the next level – a true candidate for the top-five overall picks, projecting as a better version of New England Patriots defensive end Chris Long.

[red]

browns and cowboys looking to jump back into the end of the first to grab QB's

wouldn't shock me if we're the team that takes the trade

[Joemailman]

Dallas up. Jalen Ramsey?

[esoxx]

I would take Bosa over Hundley.

[red]

if they are really gonna take all 10 minutes for eah pick, then this fucking thing is gonna take over 5 hours

fuck that, i'm not staying up till midnight, i MIGHT make it till 10