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[HarveyWallbangers]

WE GOT 44 Woody !!

Not on my board that I posted earlier today. I had Reed and Butler slightly higher, but it's hard to be too upset since I had those three as the class of the DT group--outside of Sheldon Rankins (who is a better fit in a 4-3 defense).

MY TOP 40 PROSPECTS

1 Jalen Ramsey
2 Myles Jack*
3 Joey Bosa
4 Jaylon Smith*
5 Laremy Tunsil
6 DeForest Buckner
7 Carson Wentz
8 Jack Conklin
9 Ezekiel Elliott
10 Ronnie Stanley
11 Darron Lee
12 Vernon Hargreaves
13 Jared Goff
14 Sheldon Rankins
15 Leonard Floyd
16 Laquon Treadwell
17 Josh Doctson
18 Jarran Reed
19 Vernon Butler
20 Paxton Lynch
21 Shaq Lawson
22 Kenny Clark
23 Ryan Kelly
24 Emmanuel Ogbah
25 Taylor Decker
26 A'Shawn Robinson
27 Reggie Ragland
28 Andrew Billings
29 Eli Apple
30 William Jackson
31 Kamalei Correa
32 Karl Joseph
33 Corey Coleman
34 Sterling Shepard
35 Mackensie Alexander
36 Jason Spriggs
37 Germain Ifedi
38 Vonn Bell
39 Cody Whitehair
40 Joshua Garnett

[KYPack]

Datone Jones @IAM_Dat_One 9m9 minutes ago
Ayeeeeeee lets freaking go. I promise this kid is very special. @KCBoutThatLife Congrats bro

How would he, like, know?

Maybe the two of 'em know some guy at UCLA that can play.

[Striker]

I don't dislike the pick
I disliked the job our GM did

Seattle trades down 5 picks and gets a 3rd round pick. GB makes that deal and good chance they get the same player, or one very similar.
KC trades down 7 picks and picks up an extra 4th and 6th. He might have been there too.

Those picks could have been very valuable in moving back into round two if need be

In the end, it will be interested to see if Kenny Clark has a better career than both NFL ready DL'man from Alabama, expecially Robinsin. And is his career better than a 3rd round draft pick and one of those players better ?

Do the DLs from Alabama fit the NT position/the Packers scheme?

[pbmax]

Remember Jervey and Leshon Johnson and their wildlife pets ?

The only thing better was Holmgren's reaction.

[George Cumby]

Nobody seems to like this pick. Then I guess he'll be just fine.

Lol!

[George Cumby]

Obviously, TT doesn't know what he's doing and the whole draft is a waste.

[Striker]

Obviously, TT doesn't know what he's doing and the whole draft is a waste.

Season's already over. Just give the Packers the 22nd pick next year and be done with it.

[Joemailman]

I don't dislike the pick
I disliked the job our GM did

Seattle trades down 5 picks and gets a 3rd round pick. GB makes that deal and good chance they get the same player, or one very similar.
KC trades down 7 picks and picks up an extra 4th and 6th. He might have been there too.

Those picks could have been very valuable in moving back into round two if need be

In the end, it will be interested to see if Kenny Clark has a better career than both NFL ready DL'man from Alabama, expecially Robinsin. And is his career better than a 3rd round draft pick and one of those players better ?

Denver probably doesn't make that trade with the Packers. If they did, some other team that wanted Lynch could make a deal with Seattle to beat Denver to Lynch. I would have been okay with a different trade down, but obviously TT liked Clark. We'll see.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Do the DLs from Alabama fit the NT position/the Packers scheme?

Reed is a great run plugger with little pass rush ability. Robinson has questions about his motor.

Going deeper, it's a good group, but there were minor questions about all these guys. Nkemdiche has questions about his motor also. I think Billings is more of a 4-3 DT than 3-4 DE or NT. Rankins and Bullard are better fits in a 4-3. Austin Johnson had the worst measurables of the group.

That's probably why Clark was more appealing. TT and MM seem to be emphasizing the pass rush more and more as the years go by, so I think it probably came down to Clark vs. Butler. I had Butler slightly higher overall, very slightly. I had Clark higher in the effort and toughness category. The overall measurables were about the same. I had Butler as a bit better as a run defender. Clark with a bit more potential as a pass rusher.

[pbmax]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
The #Cowboys tried to trade back into the first round, and I'm told it was for #Memphis QB Paxton Lynch. They couldn't do it.

[3irty1]

Seems like a very safe pick. Guy already looks like an effective leverage dude. Like a faster Guion. Hard to really get a feel for how athletic he can be since he's still just a baby.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Seems like a very safe pick. Guy already looks like an effective leverage dude. Like a faster Guion. Hard to really get a feel for how athletic he can be since he's still just a baby.

Athletically, he's at or near the top amongst the top 3-4 NTs in the draft. Him and Vernon Butler. I used a modified SPARC that I took off a Seahawks site, and for overall athleticism here's how the top 3-4 NTs ranked:

1 Vernon Butler
2 Kenny Clark
3 Andrew Billings
4 Vincent Valentine
5 Jarran Reed
6 D.J. Reader
7 A'Shawn Robinson
8 Austin Johnson

[wist43]

Clark doesn't have pro-bowl potential, and as I said in an earlier post, he doesn't possess any special traits.

He's just a pretty good, unspectacular football player. I want to be okay with the pick, but there were a lot of good players - better players - on the board than Clark. That's why it's disappointing for me.

Think he has a limited ceiling.

[call_me_ishmael]

Boy, Myles Jack's knee must be really bad. That really sucks for him. I would not mind taking a flyer here on him.

[woodbuck27]

Quote Originally Posted by Pugger

" Nobody seems to like this pick. Then I guess he'll be just fine. "



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