NFL Draft Day 3

[beveaux1]

Well, if the NFL starts and ends with the big guys, we had a big draft. Two OL, two DL, two LBs, and a very speedy WR. If we needed to get bigger, we did it. I don't care what the "experts" say about our draft. I'll give it a few years and decide for myself.

[Bretsky]

Remember that year the Packers took some scrub named Greg Jennings instead of the future All Pro Chad Jackson?

And Devonte Adams over Allan Robinson

[woodbuck27]

By that logic the teams that have also blown their picks for a WR are: Texans, Rams, Patriots, Dolphins, Browns, Chiefs, Bills, Titans, Vikings, Bengals & Ravens as they have all selected a WR with a grade that was lower than Charone Peake who has a 5.8 rating by NFL.com.

Will you also now be condemning those GMs as well?

Dear God....I'll not insult or initiate a duel with you ... rather I'll be patient with your counter argument:

OK..... I'll try it this way:

Think about TT's position relative to what he picked at WR relevant to the 36-39 WR's he might rather have selected.

[beveaux1]

I like all of the info Woody shares as well as Harv's info. Gives us two sets of players to look at. Since TT hardly ever cuts his own draft picks, and hightly doubtful he'll cut the Fresno Fraud, either Janis or Abby are probably toast

Janis and Abby are TTs draft picks, too.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Dean Lowry is tied with Datone Jones for best athlete at DE that Thompson has taken.
Jason Spriggs is the most athletic OL that Thompson has taken.
Trevor Davis is the third most athletic WR that Thompson has taken behind Terrence Murphy and Jeff Janis.

Mind you, this is based on measurables at the combine, and I fully acknowledge that sometimes guys don't play as well as they time. I find it interesting nonetheless. The rest of the guys kind of fit Thompson's wheelhouse for athleticism. The two LBs are right in the middle of the players that Thompson has taken. Since Martinez is about the same in this draft class, there's nothing to read from that. Thompson usually goes for guys that are near the top athletically at OLB. Clark is right in the middle. Athletically, he's pretty similar to Raji (although Raji was much bigger) and Josh Boyd. Yet, Clark ranked near the top among this draft class for 3-4 NTs. Some of the other guys though projected more as 3-4 DEs but I have them listed as DTs. Murphy didn't test because of an injury. It's rare that Thompson takes somebody that wasn't able to test at all.

[Bretsky]

Janis and Abby are TTs draft picks, too.

Talking rookie draft picks; they are 2 years aged and we won't keep 7 WR's

[Carolina_Packer]

Murphy is a good player. Has an injury, but I had him projected as a 4th round pick. Just didn't think they'd double dip at OT. Perhaps TT envisions one of these guys kicking inside to OG. The depth at OL could be stellar now.

Murphy was my 12th rated OT. Fits a zone scheme very well. Productive.

Spriggs is a lock of course, but if a guy like Murphy can come in and compete for a roster spot and wins it, the depth is better than Barclay and Walker, which is a huge plus given what happened with the starting tackles last year.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I like all of the info Woody shares as well as Harv's info. Gives us two sets of players to look at. Since TT hardly ever cuts his own draft picks, and hightly doubtful he'll cut the Fresno Fraud, either Janis or Abby are probably toast

This makes no sense since Janis and Abby were also drafted by Thompson. He's going to have to cut one of his own guys, since they are all his own guys and he's not going to keep 7 WRs.

EDIT: I didn't understand what Bretsky was originally getting at, but he means cutting rookies. Not's not entirely true. Didn't he cut two guys last year?

[Joemailman]

This makes no sense since Janis and Abby were also drafted by Thompson. He's going to have to cut one of his own guys, since they are all his own guys and he's not going to keep 7 WRs.

EDIT: I didn't understand what Bretsky was originally getting at, but he means cutting rookies. Not's not entirely true. Didn't he cut two guys last year?

B meant rookie draft picks. And he's right. TT's picks in the 1st 6 rounds almost always make the team as a rookie.

[Teamcheez1]

This makes no sense since Janis and Abby were also drafted by Thompson. He's going to have to cut one of his own guys, since they are all his own guys and he's not going to keep 7 WRs.

EDIT: I didn't understand what Bretsky was originally getting at, but he means cutting rookies. Not's not entirely true. Didn't he cut two guys last year?

I doubt we make it through training camp with all receivers healthy. That choice will probably be made for him.

Also, as much as some like Abby, he is definitely on the chopping block as the bottom part of the roster is turned over.

[HarveyWallbangers]

My initial thought is that this is going to be a good draft. Sure, at each pick there were some guys that I liked better (except the Spriggs pick), but everybody was pretty much on my short list. Could be the kiss of death though--since my gut feeling on players that TT picks at draft time is often wrong.

[Striker]

And Devonte Adams over Allan Robinson

They had equivalent first years, and Robinson shot ahead in year 2. The book isn't quite closed on this one yet (unlike the Jennings/Jackson debate) though it doesn't look good after the first two seasons.

Really, it just shows that what the hell do we know one minute after the pick is made? We can use "expert analysis" from those who are employed by sports networks and not the teams themselves but these early grades are all meaningless.

[beveaux1]

I doubt we make it through training camp with all receivers healthy. That choice will probably be made for him.

Also, as much as some like Abby, he is definitely on the chopping block as the bottom part of the roster is turned over.

I agree, unless Davis agrees to the practice squad.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Baltimore took Canady soon after the Packers picked.

[Rutnstrut]

The German dude the Vikes took will be a better player than Ted's latest WR bust.