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With Fat Eddy and Plodding Starks as your options, it's not surprising at all. I think they will incorporate more screens next year, especially if they get some more speed back there.Originally posted by red View PostGood, maybe next year fat mike will add a play that's called "throw the ball to the running back out of the backfield"
For a very pass heavy offense, it kind of amazing how little we do that
Damn I miss the days of Levens and Bennett running the hell out of screens.All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!
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you got that right...but remember...it's been big play or bust. i wish we ran a more conventional west coast o. te and wr are thrown to a lot. more plays from under center too. play action is your friend.Originally posted by red View PostGood, maybe next year fat mike will add a play that's called "throw the ball to the running back out of the backfield"
For a very pass heavy offense, it kind of amazing how little we do that
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I'd like to see some screen passes too, but I kinda doubt it will happen. D Coordinators figured out quite a while ago that blitzing Aaron Rodgers is counterproductive. They also know that they usually can get quick and strong pressure with just 3 or 4 pass rushers. Screens work best when the opponent loads up for a big pass rush - usually blitzing. Since they don't much, we won't much.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Doesn't have to be just screens. RB's can run routes too. Maybe we ought to send Stubby some David Johnson video tape.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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This season, blitzing Aaron Rodgers was very productive. Atlanta copied what Dallas did in second half.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostI'd like to see some screen passes too, but I kinda doubt it will happen. D Coordinators figured out quite a while ago that blitzing Aaron Rodgers is counterproductive. They also know that they usually can get quick and strong pressure with just 3 or 4 pass rushers. Screens work best when the opponent loads up for a big pass rush - usually blitzing. Since they don't much, we won't much.
They need to tighten up that pass blocking ship.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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What worked as per what I saw was coming with a Safety or a Corner. When LBs came in, Rodgers just shed 'em like a duck in water. He had a harder time escaping speedy DBs though. I'm not sure if screens or something else are the solution to that. It seems to me, if we screened with a DB chasing Rodgers, 1 the play might not have time to set up and 2 the speedy DB probably could track down our RB from behind for a short gain. McCarthy's weakness seems to be adjusting on the fly - like when a team finds something that works like what you mentioned.
The subject of this thread, Ty Montgomery, was a large part of the problem. Having him at RB a full camp and preseason might get him shaped up as a pass blocker.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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They were also getting him with delayed ILB blitzes that Linsley and Monty would not pick up. The LBS Dallas and Atlanta were sending were smaller and quicker than most and he couldn't avoid them.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostWhat worked as per what I saw was coming with a Safety or a Corner. When LBs came in, Rodgers just shed 'em like a duck in water. He had a harder time escaping speedy DBs though. I'm not sure if screens or something else are the solution to that. It seems to me, if we screened with a DB chasing Rodgers, 1 the play might not have time to set up and 2 the speedy DB probably could track down our RB from behind for a short gain. McCarthy's weakness seems to be adjusting on the fly - like when a team finds something that works like what you mentioned.
The subject of this thread, Ty Montgomery, was a large part of the problem. Having him at RB a full camp and preseason might get him shaped up as a pass blocker.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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He has some work to do as far as blitzes. But he is a tough, strong, scrapper. IMO, that is exactly what you want at center. I also think he needs to work on his shotgun snaps a bit. They seem weak and to barely get to AR sometimes.Originally posted by Smidgeon View PostJSO said Linsley is "the Packers' future at center." Anyone agree with that?
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Assuming both are healthy and will be healthy, do you prefer Tretter or Linsley?Originally posted by Rutnstrut View PostHe has some work to do as far as blitzes. But he is a tough, strong, scrapper. IMO, that is exactly what you want at center. I also think he needs to work on his shotgun snaps a bit. They seem weak and to barely get to AR sometimes.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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Prefer Tretter. Think JSO is only saying that because for now, on March 1 or whatever day it might be, he will not be on the team without a new contract.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I also prefer Tretter. I think that he is a better overall athlete and gets to the second level better. He is also a smarter football player and does a nice job setting the line. He is also really good at getting out front on screens.
I would rather see Monty split reps with another running back, whether it is Lacy or someone else. I would like to see him in a Thurman Thomas type role catching the ball out of the backfield and not just sending him into the flat to be mirrored by an OLB.
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