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Is WR Davante Adams a prime candidate among NFL team Vets to be cut during TC?
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Could be. I see the injuries as a factor, but it's only part of the story. Hope he bounces back because he has a lot of qualities you like in a WR. I also think there's a chance Monty will not be ready, so they probably will need him, at least for a time."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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To early to tell, but from what I've seen on film of Davis, I'd keep him instead of Abby or Adams, if it comes down to that. Abby is slow and one hit in the head away from an ended career. Adams flashes but is neither fast nor big-play explosive. Davis has speed and big play ability. We'll see.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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Everyone said the same thing about James Jones early in his career. I think 90% of Adams' issues last year were right between the ears. If he can get his confidence back he'll be a player.Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View PostTo early to tell, but from what I've seen on film of Davis, I'd keep him instead of Abby or Adams, if it comes down to that. Abby is slow and one hit in the head away from an ended career. Adams flashes but is neither fast nor big-play explosive. Davis has speed and big play ability. We'll see.Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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I think Janis would have to stumble big to not make the roster. Besides the potential he showed as a WR, he also has a ton of special teams quality. They might give him another year to develop, but I see this next year (his third) as being roughly equivalent to another player's second year. So I expect the WR jump to happen this year.Originally posted by MadScientist View PostIf everyone is healthy, the last spot is likely to come down to Adams vs Abby. If Adams shows his problems last year were due to bum ankles, he will make it. Janis could be on the bubble if he shows his limited time last year was not due to inadequate coaching, but due to a fundamental inability to grasp the offense or run good routes.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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Better protection will make Rodgers more accurate again and will solve a lot of problems with the receivers.
I think Janis is in more danger than Adams. The coaches didn't trust Janis to run the play calls last year and he flashed only when they were playing playground ball. This is Year 3 for him. He needs to learn how to run the offense and its routes. They don't like to let athletes go, but McCarthy is not going to want to keep a guy who cannot be trusted to run the play.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Better protection would make most QB's more accurate. Rodgers is supposed to be better than all the rest. So better protection or not, he better be more accurate this year.Originally posted by pbmax View PostBetter protection will make Rodgers more accurate again and will solve a lot of problems with the receivers.
I think Janis is in more danger than Adams. The coaches didn't trust Janis to run the play calls last year and he flashed only when they were playing playground ball. This is Year 3 for him. He needs to learn how to run the offense and its routes. They don't like to let athletes go, but McCarthy is not going to want to keep a guy who cannot be trusted to run the play.
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Better or not, if you're getting sacked nine times in a game, it's turn out the lights, even for the best of QBs. Watch Steve Young playing for Tampa Bay. People thought he should be better too. Amazing how playing with better players overall made him 'magically' a HOF QB. This isn't archery: it's football.Originally posted by Rutnstrut View PostBetter protection would make most QB's more accurate. Rodgers is supposed to be better than all the rest. So better protection or not, he better be more accurate this year."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I agree about Janis. It's a big jump from Saginaw Valley State to the NFL, but this is year 3. If he doesn't have the offense figured out this year, it may be time to move on. Davis is a real threat to him. Adams will make it unless he's just totally lost confidence and can't get it back.Originally posted by pbmax View Post
I think Janis is in more danger than Adams. The coaches didn't trust Janis to run the play calls last year and he flashed only when they were playing playground ball. This is Year 3 for him. He needs to learn how to run the offense and its routes. They don't like to let athletes go, but McCarthy is not going to want to keep a guy who cannot be trusted to run the play.
I see the top 7 WR's as:
1. Nelson
2. Cobb
3. Montgomery
4. Adams
5. Davis
6. Janis
7. AbbyLast edited by Joemailman; 05-11-2016, 06:00 PM.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
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He's a candidate to be cut but certainly not a prime candidate. Last year will always be a mystery to me. Rodgers and the coaches were talking him up all offseason....Rodgers said he could be a star. Was it only the injuries? Did he slack off between OTA's and TC opening? McCarthy made comments about both him and DickRod needing to get themselves better prepared for the long season. Definitely will be an interesting offseason. Between Adams, Nelson, Janis, and DickRod we certainly have our share of players who have uncertainty surrounding them.Go PACK
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I think Adams, Abby, and Davis are fighting for two spots in what is probably close to a fair fight. If Adams still has all this potential he's got nothing to worry about.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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Nice post.Originally posted by Bossman641 View PostHe's a candidate to be cut but certainly not a prime candidate. Last year will always be a mystery to me. Rodgers and the coaches were talking him up all offseason....Rodgers said he could be a star. Was it only the injuries? Did he slack off between OTA's and TC opening? McCarthy made comments about both him and DickRod needing to get themselves better prepared for the long season. Definitely will be an interesting offseason. Between Adams, Nelson, Janis, and DickRod we certainly have our share of players who have uncertainty surrounding them.
You sum the WR position for the Packers up well.
I believe all the original confidence in Adams will return. He'll fight to play better and will.
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I think Adams was hurt, rushed back too soon and wasn't effective because of it, and t got to his head. I also wonder if the ankle didn't heal all the way. I thought Adams was supposed to be a pretty good route runner; that has to be tough with a bad ankle. I heard the talk about Rodgers calling him out for his work ethic; wouldn't doubt the "offseason MVP" talk went to his head and didn't prepare like he should have. I think that unless he completely craps the bed or pulls a Rae Carruth his roster spot is safe.
There's also the issues of subpar OL performance and a lack of a true WR coach impacting the passing offense, Adams included.
Janis needs to show he can be consistent and trusted, then he'll stick. He has high special teams value, which you want out of your reserve WRs.
Not sure what Abby provides that the others don't. Yeah, he's a good story and I'm rooting for him, but I think the roster spot comes down to him and Davis. The injury history is a concern with Abby too. Could they try to stash Abby on the PS?
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I believe it's:Originally posted by Joemailman View PostI agree about Janis. It's a big jump from Saginaw Valley State to the NFL, but this is year 3. If he doesn't have the offense figured out this year, it may be time to move on. Davis is a real threat to him. Adams will make it unless he's just totally lost confidence and can't get it back.
I see the top 7 WR's as:
1. Nelson
2. Cobb
3. Montgomery
4. Adams
5. Davis
6. Janis
7. Abby
1. Nelson
2.Cobb
3.Adams
4. Montgomery
5.Janis or Davis...ST Value
6.Abby is done as a Packer.
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I don't buy that in this case. Most QB who are inaccurate are consistently inaccurate. And in one year, Rodgers suddenly got way out of sync. Even great QBs can struggle with pressure, but for 12.5 games, Rodgers was a different QB and he was not always facing the most fearsome pass rush.Originally posted by Rutnstrut View PostBetter protection would make most QB's more accurate. Rodgers is supposed to be better than all the rest. So better protection or not, he better be more accurate this year.
I think there is a chance that something went badly wrong with him last year. But we have other examples of his more common struggles and they did not look like 2015. He has had trouble with protection, sliding in the pocket and hanging on to the ball before, but it didn't make him a tire fire.
But when you add poor protection to the no huddle offense, the no coach WRs (injured and underperforming) and Fat Lacy, and I think the odds are better that it was circumstantial.
There is a possibility he's gone wrong. I just think its the least likely explanation.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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