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Is WR Davante Adams a prime candidate among NFL team Vets to be cut during TC?
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By screwed up for Adams, I am assuming you mean ran the right route, got open and dropped the ball.Originally posted by Patler View PostYa. Janis was never given (or didn't earn) much of an opportunity to have any impact on the offense. However, his two receptions during the year went for 33 yards and 46 yards in the same game. If memory serves correctly, there were also a couple long PI calls on long throws to him in games about that same time. I couldn't understand why they didn't let him go deep once or twice a game, expecially since nothing else they were doing seemed to be working. When he did go deep and they actually threw it to him, they seemed to get yards one way or another. After those two receptions and a couple PI calls, when he did come into games, it was mostly to block.
Adams screwed up again and again, but still played. It seemed that Janis wasn't allowed to be anything but perfect, nor was Abredderis for that matter. When he had a fumble, he wasn't seen again for a couple weeks. Yet Adams........
By perfect for Janis, I am assuming you mean can only run a fly pattern correctly.
If that is what you meant we are in total agreement.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Fixed it for you.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostBy screwed up for Adams, I am assuming you mean ran the right route, got open and dropped the ball.
By perfect for Janis, I am assuming you mean can only run a jump ball pattern correctly.
If that is what you meant we are in total agreement.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I think you have the wrong white WR.Originally posted by George Cumby View PostAs was pointed out before, Schroeder has the ST card, which we need. That alone gets him a roster spot.
Unless Adams totally shits the bed, Abby is odd man out.
Abby still has PS eligibility, no?But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Someone's likely to get hurt or not be ready, which could dictate the situation, but I agree with all of that 31. My guess is Monty won't be ready yet.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostAt this point I think Janis is safer than all three of Adams, Abby, or Davis on special teams alone. Not to mention the high note he ended the season on. Regardless of injuries Adams took the field and was completely ineffective last year. When finally replaced, his replacements outperformed him. In year three his draft stock isn't going to save him, he's going to have to have another one of those Augusts where Rodgers and McCarthy are mentioning him in the same sentence as "pro bowl." His path to make the team should be easy if he was hurt but it is merit based.
I think Abby is Adams biggest competition. He's filled out and showed that he's got more NFL potential than a career slot guy so he can make the team without causing a log jam. Don't know how much of a gambler's fallacy it is to look at past injury and assume future injury. Hopefully Abby doesn't leave glass doll parts all over the field this year.
Davis just simply has to show value. I don't get the sense that this is a project guy like Janis was nor the sense that he is competing with Janis for the team position of "fast guy." They're looking for a Kenny Stills here. A guy who can do the most possible damage with 30 catches and I think its just as simple as that. With Janis such a mad man on return and coverage teams I think some fresh legs would be a nice compliment.Last edited by vince; 05-12-2016, 02:12 PM.
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No, I don't mean just that at all. I mean the time Adams stopped his route and caused an interception, the time he didn't fight to keep his crossing route route in front of the DB, but gave the inside to the DB rather easily and again caused an interception (I think), etc. Adams screwed up a lot more than just dropping balls last year, but there were enough of the dropped balls too to justify giving someone else a few plays in his place .Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostBy screwed up for Adams, I am assuming you mean ran the right route, got open and dropped the ball.
By perfect for Janis, I am assuming you mean can only run a fly pattern correctly.
If that is what you meant we are in total agreement.
I'm not suggesting that either Abbrederis or Janis should replace Adams, nor that either one should have played a lot. It just became frustrating that not much on offense was working, yet MM seemed unwilling to go beyond Cobb, Jones and Adams even after Montgomery was out and Jones was hurting. It was mostly an adventure when Janis went deep (he circled one like water in a drain), but two receptions for 79 yards in the regular season plus a couple long PI calls made it seem like trying another now and then couldn't have hurt anything. The offense was mostly in neutral anyway. A couple plays a game is all I wanted to see, even if they didn't throw to him on very many of them.
If they couldn't prepare him for at least a couple plays each game, either he should not be on the roster at all, or the WR noncoaching arrangement was a bigger fail than we even know.
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Thx. I've lurked here for years. Used to read the JSO forum before it shut down. If I have internet access, I like to follow the comments during the game with other fans even if the game is on tv. It especially helps keep me sane during our post season games. I think I actually joined a couple of years ago, but my account activation email never made it to activation and eventually I stopped worrying about it since I could still read so I was OK. Then I noticed someone saying they were new and just got activated so I checked and I was active too!
Originally posted by George Cumby View PostNice first post.
Welcome!
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Originally posted by Striker View PostI agree as well.
I see Abby as the odd man out since everyone else can do what he does better.
Adams should (hopefully) bounce back. Both Jones and Nelson had rough year twos (for one reason or another) but came back strong. Hopefully the pattern holds.
I don't buy into the "everyone can do what he does better comment".
Abby is a sharp route runner. He could use more speed and might get cut. But he runs much sharper routes IMO than Janis, and Adams. I think Adams routes last year were sometimes lazy and sometimes piss poor and MM gave a long leash to fail, and he used every bit of it. Had MM given him a shorter leash and Janis and Abby more opportunity it may have been a good thing. Janis is fast but runs shit routes and still can't be relied on.
As a route runner, I was also very impressed with Montgomery's sharp routes as well and he picked up our offense very fast. He was a HUGE LOSS. Jordy is our best route runner IMO. Cobb is great improvising and runs decent routes as well. Who knows about Davis.
I can see Abby getting cut or making this team and contributing this year.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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