Coaching the Single Wing

[Deputy Nutz]

I have seen some nice footage of the single wing. I like the blocking scheme. Down block on playside and kick out with blocking back, wing back, half back, and a pulling linemen.

[pbmax]

I should just go find a video, but doesn't single wing allow direct snaps to others beside the QB?

What were the Packers running in the 30s with Arnie Herber?

[KYPack]

I should just go find a video, but doesn't single wing allow direct snaps to others beside the QB?

What were the Packers running in the 30s with Arnie Herber?

Sure.

Snaps to different backs is a big part of the offense. Some really crazy SW plays include multiple handoffs to a back who would then pass.

In the 30's until the late 40's, the Pack ran principally the Notre Dame Box. The also ran the Single Wing with various tailbacks doing the passing.

That's the "paradox of Lambeau". He was a early advocate of the passing game, yet he stuck with an offense more geared to the running game (for far too long in most observers eyes).

[Freak Out]

So you are running a wildcat offense then?

[wootah]

The worst part of youth sports, are the parents.

QFT. At the beginning of each season our club hands out a policy for the (grand-)parents on the sidelines: no coaching, only positive cheering and if the general behaviour is not acceptable, you get 1 warning before you're out. If you fail to respect that, your kid is out as well. It has never come to that last step, fortunately. The players themselves know why certain coaching decisions are made and they understand it. The problem lies with the parents, their unrealistic expectations and their inability to see the big picture.

I must say that the last couple of years I've encountered some opposing coaches whose behaviour was worse than that of even the most stupid fans. I hope this is not a trend here to stay. Insulting their own players, ridiculing them & calling them names. That pisses me off like mad and I can't understand why a parent would allow such a thing. The problem with soccer is that you're standing about 3 feet away from the opposing coach, so you cannot simply ignore it. Where I draw the line is when it comes to my own players; if an opposing coach says sth derogatory about them, I'll (verbally) make it very clear that it's not appreciated. I'm usually a very calm person, but when someone has gone too far, as eloquently as I possibly can I'll put them on the spot. In the end, a "I suggest you coach your team and I coach mine since it's clear both of us have our work cut out there" usually ends those kind of discussions.

Any of you guys ever involved in an argument with an opposing coach? How did you handle it?

[woodbuck27]

QFT. At the beginning of each season our club hands out a policy for the (grand-)parents on the sidelines: no coaching, only positive cheering and if the general behaviour is not acceptable, you get 1 warning before you're out. If you fail to respect that, your kid is out as well. It has never come to that last step, fortunately. The players themselves know why certain coaching decisions are made and they understand it. The problem lies with the parents, their unrealistic expectations and their inability to see the big picture.

I must say that the last couple of years I've encountered some opposing coaches whose behaviour was worse than that of even the most stupid fans. I hope this is not a trend here to stay. Insulting their own players, ridiculing them & calling them names. That pisses me off like mad and I can't understand why a parent would allow such a thing. The problem with soccer is that you're standing about 3 feet away from the opposing coach, so you cannot simply ignore it. Where I draw the line is when it comes to my own players; if an opposing coach says sth derogatory about them, I'll (verbally) make it very clear that it's not appreciated. I'm usually a very calm person, but when someone has gone too far, as eloquently as I possibly can I'll put them on the spot. In the end, a "I suggest you coach your team and I coach mine since it's clear both of us have our work cut out there" usually ends those kind of discussions.

Any of you guys ever involved in an argument with an opposing coach? How did you handle it?

" Any of you guys ever involved in an argument with an opposing coach? How did you handle it? " wootah

In my coaching experience ....laughter usually works.

[Deputy Nutz]

I get into arguments all the time with other coaches, even in middle school girls' rec basketball. They act like dip shits, and I call them out on it.

[Deputy Nutz]

So you are running a wildcat offense then?

I wouldn't call it the wildcat. It is the single wing. We don't run much veer read stuff. We have direct snaps to both tailback and Quarterback. Both backs are expected to block.

[wootah]

I get into arguments all the time with other coaches, even in middle school girls' rec basketball. They act like dip shits, and I call them out on it.

I get that and it seems great fun, but it doesn't fit the 'no distractions, focus on what you can control' mantra that I try to convey to my players.

From my experience a coach that doesn't control his emotions creates players that do not control theirs.

[Fritz]

I wouldn't call it the wildcat. It is the single wing. We don't run much veer read stuff. We have direct snaps to both tailback and Quarterback. Both backs are expected to block.

I think the great Oklahoma teams ran the single wing back in the early 70's, no?

[CaptainD]

I wouldn't call it the wildcat. It is the single wing. We don't run much veer read stuff. We have direct snaps to both tailback and Quarterback. Both backs are expected to block.

Here is a good coaching article on what you're talking about https://www.xandolabs.com/index.php?...=94&Itemid=162

[Carolina_Packer]

I think the great Oklahoma teams ran the single wing back in the early 70's, no?

They ran the Wishbone, which is a popular T formation. The story goes that Chuck Fairbanks had been at Oklahoma for a few seasons when his assistant, Barry Switzer, urged him to install the Wishbone, and a short time, they perfected it and the rest is history. Like Nutz's team running single wing, I think many high schools still run wishbone which is heavy on the run.

[Carolina_Packer]

Well I am back in the coaching ranks of high school coaching. The ten year suspension was a little much but finally the "Nutter Butter" is Back!

I am coaching the offensive line and our school runs the Single Wing offense. I sort of understand the blocking schemes, but our coach wants to start incorporating some zone principals. I coached and played in a zone scheme, but there are so many ways of coaching it sometimes my head can't take it all.

So is anyone here an expert in the Single Wing, or running zone schemes in general? Youtube has been a life saver as there are many videos from coaches and cut ups of teams running the formations.

Did you find this site when you were looking around? http://www.2000footballplaybooks.com...ingle-wing/14/ It looks useful, anyway.