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  • #16
    That's a silly article.
    Janis would be lucky to be #4 WR, nevermind the #3. I could see Adams starting out as the #3 and being overtaken by Montgomery.

    Janis is a very good athlete, but -- unless he's made strides -- nowhere as developed of a WR as Adams. He'll make his mark on ST and get a few snaps here and there. If he can't figure out the offense and how to run the routes, he'll be a version of Kaseem Osgood.
    I'm curious to see how Davis does. He's also got speed to play outside as a deep threat, and probably runs better routes than Janis. There will be a lot of competition for roster spots.

    Do they have a Greg Jennings type on the roster right now? Go back and watch the games from the 2010 playoff run and Jennings stands out. I think Adams or Janis are much different players.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Patler View Post
      If Montgomery is healthy, it could be an interesting competition.
      Montgomery to me is a MUCH better route runner; IMO he has the ability to best real NFL CB's.

      I think Adams needs to be matchup with with the #3-5 CB on the roster to be effective
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #18
        I found the article interesting

        Buried below all the words to me was an obvious conclusion by the author.

        Janis has serious potential and to get that he thinks Janis can offer we should let Janis learn and work through some of the mistakes so in the end, to be honest, we have something Davante Adams offers little of.............upside................
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
          I found the article interesting

          Buried below all the words to me was an obvious conclusion by the author.

          Janis has serious potential and to get that he thinks we should let Janis learn and work through some of the mistakes so in the end, to be honest, we have something Davante Adams offers little of.............upside................
          Janis is entering his 3rd year though. At some point he has to show he knows the offense. There are tons of WR's who have lots of physical talent who don't make it in the NFL because they can't handle the mental part of the game. It's time for Janis to show he can be trusted to run his assignments correctly.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #20
            I think the issue with Janis is simple, he is still learning how to run routes. Even he admitted that he didn't really run routes in college, he just took off and beat guys with speed. His first year they said he struggled getting off the LOS against anyone in his face. Last year they said at times he trashed DBs who tried that, but was inconsistent. I suspect his work as a gunner on the punt team has helped in that regard.

            Speaking of STs Chris Banjo made the comment that no one was surprised when things started clicking for Janis on STs, because he asked questions constantly and he was passionate about wanting to excel at whatever he was given to do.

            We know he is smart, as I recall his Wonderlic score was in the 30's. Of course, that doesn't make him football smart.

            Maybe he never will learn the nuances of a good route runner, so maybe he is destined to be a special teams stud who gives you a big, strong and fast 4th or 5th receiver, and there is nothing wrong with that.

            One thing is for certain, he makes things happen even as a WR. He may not look refined, but he seems to have a knack for creating yardage, last year even by drawing long PI calls. Maybe he is not a guy you can build an offense around because of inconsistency, but he looks like a guy who should have a few plays designed around him for those times when you need to stir things up a bit

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            • #21
              i would hope that the positions are not etched in stone before training camp like the title seems to say

              you would think any of the guys, if they deserve it, could be the #3 or hell even the #1 if they play better then the guy already ahead of them. no matter it its janis, adams, ty, abby or the rookie

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              • #22
                Originally posted by red View Post
                i would hope that the positions are not etched in stone before training camp like the title seems to say

                you would think any of the guys, if they deserve it, could be the #3 or hell even the #1 if they play better then the guy already ahead of them. no matter it its janis, adams, ty, abby or the rookie
                There may well not be a clear cut #3. There was a period when Jordy/Jones were 3-4 behind Jennings and Driver until Driver declined.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                  Man, don't remember anything about Adams.

                  Barry Smith?

                  Yeah, maybe the biggest flop receiver (outside of the Ferg) ever.
                  Wasn't Ferguson coming on pretty well until that fateful clothesline by the Jax safety or am I just waxing poetic?

                  Seems to me he had a decent season the year before and had started that year well, but that hit derailed it.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                    Wasn't Ferguson coming on pretty well until that fateful clothesline by the Jax safety or am I just waxing poetic?

                    Seems to me he had a decent season the year before and had started that year well, but that hit derailed it.
                    You're waxing poetic. his best season was in 2003, and the injury occurred in 2006. http://www.pro-football-reference.co...F/FergRo00.htm
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      You're waxing poetic. his best season was in 2003, and the injury occurred in 2006. http://www.pro-football-reference.co...F/FergRo00.htm
                      The Donovan Darius clothesline tackle was in 2004, near the end of the season. He had become a somewhat fearless over the middle receiver, but was never the same after the Darius tackle.

                      He missed a good part of 2006 with a foot injury.

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                      • #26
                        I don't know if Janis deserves the chance to be the #3 more than any other WR on the roster not named Jordy and Cobb. Our #3 will be they guy who wins that spot because of how they perform this summer, nothing more.

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                        • #27
                          I root for Janis like I was rooting for Sherrod. If he can make the lineup and play, his gifts immediately make you better because the opponent has to deal with top level athletic traits opposing them. They have to do something to blunt the impact or ignore an advantage in a section of the field. You gain not just a new starter (who is young) but also add something to the field not everyone has.

                          I hope he proves worthy of the #3 slot, heck, I hope he makes #2 because he is a athletic freak.

                          But last year's production was based off an offense that wasn't operating normally. It used to be in a car with a radiator problem that you could run the heater to take some heat out of the engine compartment. You could limp along without boiling off all the water to get to help. Like Janis' 2015 production, it works, sometimes too well to be believed. But its not ideal, optimum nor the intended design of the engineers.

                          I hope he gets his gets his head on straight.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #28
                            What Janis deserves is a fair opportunity to earn the #3 spot or the #4 spot. Some think he hasn't been given that, or that he won't be given that. I have to say, in the second half of 2015, with Montgomery out and no other WR making any sort of positive impact at all, I thought MM should have given both Abbrederis and Janis more game opportunities to see if they could do anything. However, at this point MM knows he needs WRs who will step up and perform during games, and I doubt very much that he cares in what round the WR was acquired.

                            That said, I do think a coach can put too much emphasis on "earning it in practice". Generally, I think it is a good philosophy, but there are some players who, for whatever reason, are not particularly good practice players, but do perform in actual games. I think Janis has enough physical advantages and has shown enough game time flashes to be given an honest opportunity in games to see if he is one of those players.

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                            • #29
                              Click bait article. Just shoddy journalism.
                              Originally posted by 3irty1
                              This is museum quality stupidity.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                I root for Janis like I was rooting for Sherrod. If he can make the lineup and play, his gifts immediately make you better because the opponent has to deal with top level athletic traits opposing them. They have to do something to blunt the impact or ignore an advantage in a section of the field. You gain not just a new starter (who is young) but also add something to the field not everyone has.

                                I hope he proves worthy of the #3 slot, heck, I hope he makes #2 because he is a athletic freak.

                                But last year's production was based off an offense that wasn't operating normally. It used to be in a car with a radiator problem that you could run the heater to take some heat out of the engine compartment. You could limp along without boiling off all the water to get to help. Like Janis' 2015 production, it works, sometimes too well to be believed. But its not ideal, optimum nor the intended design of the engineers.

                                I hope he gets his gets his head on straight.
                                Are you saying that blasting the heat is no longer a remedy for overheating engine?

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