NOTABLE TRAINING CAMP NOTHINGS FROM PACKER PRESS IN REGARDS TO WR's

[ThunderDan]

If I was there, I'd certainly be cheering Janis catch. If he plays up to his potential, that does more to upgrade the offense than basically anything other than Aaron Rodgers staying healthy. I hope Davis comes through big too, but I just bet they let him sit on the bench for a couple of years like Janis no matter how well he does.

This is ridiculous. How did the Packers offense go in 2014 or before? Janis never contributed in any meaningful way and yet we were top 5 in offense every year.

We missed three things last year. 1. A true #1 WR in Jordy Nelson. 2. A running attack and not a fat slug. 3. ARod's pinpoint accuracy was off.

[ThunderDan]

I hope Davis comes through big too, but I just bet they let him sit on the bench for a couple of years like Janis no matter how well he does.

Again, this part makes no sense either. The coaches will not sit their best players just because they are rookies.

It sounds like Davis is doing some great things in camp so far. It will be a matter of how quickly he picks up the whole playbook and the concepts of the Packer offense. I can't think of a better year to be a rookie WR on the Packers. Last year the offense was the main problem and the WR corp was average at best.

If you can come in a show that you are better than Adams, Monty, Abby and Janis you are the starting 3rd WR in GB. That is assuming Nelson comes back at full strength.

[Patler]

I have not considered Janis to be someone the offense can feature, like Nelson or Cobb. However, the staff should be able to figure out a way to use Janis as a new wrinkle in the offense. Something else for a defense to think about. With everyone hurt and/or under performing at WR last year, I was astounded that there never was an attempt to work Janis in. He was the only receiver who was healthy at times, was their biggest WR, their fastest WR, and probably their strongest WR, yet there was no attempt to use him. It made no sense when everyone ahead of him was performing so poorly as it was.

[Zool]

It doesn't help him when Rodgers pouts. Janis is a special talent, they NEED to find a way to help him figure things out. Everyone learns differently, some people are very hands on. Maybe Janis needs to learn in game type situations. The other possibility is maybe he will never get it. I hope that's not the case as imo he's a better talent than Adams.

Janis is physically gifted but by all account not too bright. He's Bill Schroeder 2.0. Once he figures out how to run something other than a 9, he'll be productive.

[pbmax]

^ But he did quite well on the Wonderlic I believe. That test is not the be all and end all of intelligence, but he has something percolating beneath his scalp. He's clearly absorbed and used complex information before.

[Zool]

^ But he did quite well on the Wonderlic I believe. That test is not the be all and end all of intelligence, but he has something percolating beneath his scalp. He's clearly absorbed and used complex information before.

I took the wonderlic and did quite well myself. Doesn't mean I can read a defense on the fly while a guy is bumping me at the line. Rodgers is probably the perfect QB for him though. He seems to excel on broken plays or plays extended by Rodgers.

[pbmax]

I took the wonderlic and did quite well myself. Doesn't mean I can read a defense on the fly while a guy is bumping me at the line. Rodgers is probably the perfect QB for him though. He seems to excel on broken plays or plays extended by Rodgers.

I think it means you should be able to be taught though.

I might be assuming too much. He clearly was one of the most gifted athletes playing at his level, so he didn't need much in the way of detail or technique. Maybe applying discipline to his technique and his reads is too much at once. But this is going on Year 4. Something should have shaken loose.

[Guiness]

It doesn't help him when Rodgers pouts. Janis is a special talent, they NEED to find a way to help him figure things out. Everyone learns differently, some people are very hands on. Maybe Janis needs to learn in game type situations. The other possibility is maybe he will never get it. I hope that's not the case as imo he's a better talent than Adams.

If 11 on 11 drills are not 'game type' enough for him, all in favor of putting Janis in games that count raise their hand. Thought so, 1...Jeff, you don't get a vote!

[Harlan Huckleby]

I took the wonderlic and did quite well myself.

You know it's not a 1 to 10 scale, right?

[Guiness]

Again, this part makes no sense either. The coaches will not sit their best players just because they are rookies.

It sounds like Davis is doing some great things in camp so far. It will be a matter of how quickly he picks up the whole playbook and the concepts of the Packer offense. I can't think of a better year to be a rookie WR on the Packers. Last year the offense was the main problem and the WR corp was average at best.

If you can come in a show that you are better than Adams, Monty, Abby and Janis you are the starting 3rd WR in GB. That is assuming Nelson comes back at full strength.

+1 and then some. Greg Jennings started week 1 as a rookie, and didn't look back for 6 years. He's not going to be a starter because he would have to beat out Cobb instead of Ferguson, but he could be the #3 week 1 if he has that good a camp.

I'll take the green kool-aid please.

[gbgary]

i thought they were going to dummy things down this year...remember that? as for davis doing well and sitting...that'll never happen. janis sits because he's not good enough. not because of some policy or vendetta. they'll put the best ones out there regardless of tenure. just look at the secondary over the years. babies end up starting and staying, or they end up replaced by other babies.

[Pugger]

janis is bigger but not smarter. see ya jj!

Jeff's ST play will secure him a roster spot not unlike Jerrett Bush did in the past.

[Pugger]

This is ridiculous. How did the Packers offense go in 2014 or before? Janis never contributed in any meaningful way and yet we were top 5 in offense every year.

We missed three things last year. 1. A true #1 WR in Jordy Nelson. 2. A running attack and not a fat slug. 3. ARod's pinpoint accuracy was off.

This fascination with Janis by the fans and the media is crazy. The kid is big and fast but if he has problems reading what the defense is doing he's gonna always struggle in this offense. From what I can garner from afar the receivers have to be in a certain spot according to what the defense is doing. Too bad we can't put Janis' body with Abby's brain...

[Patler]

I might be assuming too much. He clearly was one of the most gifted athletes playing at his level, so he didn't need much in the way of detail or technique. Maybe applying discipline to his technique and his reads is too much at once. But this is going on Year 4. Something should have shaken loose.

Just going on Year 3 for Janis, isn't it? Considering Janis' background, that might be comparable to year 2 for a guy from a big time program.

Janis will take patience. Donald Driver was mostly a nonfactor until his 4th year.

[pbmax]

Just going on Year 3 for Janis, isn't it? Considering Janis' background, that might be comparable to year 2 for a guy from a big time program.

Janis will take patience. Donald Driver was mostly a nonfactor until his 4th year.

You are right. Makes me feel a little better. Just a little though.