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  • #31
    Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Respectfully, I see some of what you're seeing but he was a clear stud in college that made the players around him better. We'll see if that translates to the pros. I think his athleticism numbers are clearly a cut above many other linemen.
    http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=7577
    Originally posted by 3irty1
    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Patler View Post
      Limited severance pay is one thing, years of guarantee are another. He doesn't lose anything when an offset applies, he gets all that he originally expected. He just doesn't get to double dip for having failed.

      Besides, your severance pay, if of any length, is earned for service time. The first round flop generally flopped from the get-go (unless due to injury, like Courtney Brown), so it is hard to say he "earned" a double dip.
      But if an employer was able to claw-back severance, the employee wouldn't lose anything, he'd get the pay he would've! There are differences, but a lot of similarities as well.

      I personally got tossed by an employer because they made an bad decision. Hired an electrical engineer then found out they had no need and tried to fit me into a maintenance role. After moving towns, 8 months later found myself unemployed. Double-dipped for a bit, but sure didn't feel guilty about collecting the severance I did!
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      Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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      • #33
        He's got it alright. Just a winner.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #34
          I know people like to rip on me for saying Vince Young had "it". He did have "it", though. He was rookie of the year, 2x pro bowler, and a dark horse MVP candidate. Eventually he succumbed to some mental health and injury issues and his career went down hill in a hurry.

          I don't think that takes away from the great things he did as a player and the phenomenal talent he was.

          Given Joey Bosa's lack of medical or mental concerns (that we know of), I fail to see the comparison at this time.

          BTW, I am sure someone could easily pull up instances where you're wrong about a player too. Sorry man. I was wrong about Vince Young being a sustained great player. His greatness was short lived due to injury and mental health.

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          • #35
            I am trying to understand why a San Diego Charger Rookie has a thread in the Green Bay Packers category on a Packers Forum ?
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            If your not the lead dog , then the view never changes !

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Radagast View Post
              I am trying to understand why a San Diego Charger Rookie has a thread in the Green Bay Packers category on a Packers Forum ?
              Cuz it's the offseason?
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                Cuz it's the offseason?
                I see your "Cuz" and raise you a " What ? "

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Radagast View Post
                  I am trying to understand why a San Diego Charger Rookie has a thread in the Green Bay Packers category on a Packers Forum ?
                  Well... this is the only NFL area. Typically we have a lot of "other" threads running for around the league info, such as:

                  http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...penings-Thread

                  Generally, nobody gets their nose bent out of shape over the occasional specific, but non-Packer threads that come and go quickly from time to time, except of course for the occasional new poster who thinks they can make their mark by being a troublemaker.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Radagast View Post
                    I am trying to understand why a San Diego Charger Rookie has a thread in the Green Bay Packers category on a Packers Forum ?
                    By the way, your style is very reminiscent of another poster who had several reincarnations here in the past. Not an accusation, just an observation.

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                    • #40
                      On another unrelated note, anyone heard from woody?
                      All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                      George Orwell

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                      • #41
                        Bosa will be a dud.

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                        • #42
                          I doubt it. Bosa will be a solid, but unspectacular player, and play for like 10 years before retiring to anonymity.

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                          • #43
                            PFT reporting still nothing happening, no talks or anything. This seems like such a lose-lose situation if they don't come to an agreement SOON. I think the team has more leverage because if both stand firm and he loses the season, he never gets the money back. The amount of egg on the GM's face for squandering a top 5 pick is not insignificant either though.

                            Gota love that they're selling his jersey at the NFL store! Didn't know they'd assigned him a number...

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                            • #44
                              Well they are using the heavy canon today. Chargers threatening to withdraw offer in PR statement about how wonderful his contract is. Bosa's agent is fighting back on Twitter.

                              San Diego Chargers ‏@Chargers
                              Statement from the San Diego Chargers on defensive end Joey Bosa.

                              THERE ARE TWO DEAD GIVEAWAYS THAT THE CHARGERS ARE BULLSHITTING YOU IN THIS STATEMENT. SEE IF YOU AGREE.



                              Andrew Brandt @AndrewBrandt
                              People, Joey Bosa is not sitting out the year out of spite over some deferred money. The Chargers know that and are leveraging it.

                              Chris B. Brown ‏@smartfootball 46m46 minutes ago
                              Left unsaid is SD is trying to stick Bosa with a set of contractual terms no top 5 pick has agreed to post CBA
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #45
                                Chargers friendly view: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...to-be-charger/

                                Their initial offer was to pay Bosa, the third overall pick in the draft, about 60 percent of his signing bonus by Dec. 31 and the rest by mid-March. That was commensurate with what fourth pick Ezekiel Elliott got from the Dallas Cowboys but less upfront cash than what every other top-seven pick received.
                                Yes, Ayrault/Bosa has come off the offset language, but that was never going to be in play. Ayrault knew that. And, by the way, just two of this year’s other six top-seven picks do not have offset language.

                                Bosa's agent: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...presentatives/

                                We will say, that it is ironic that the team now takes issue with the timing of Joey’s arrival, since the Chargers unilaterally decided to remain silent for the first 14 days of training camp instead of replying in a timely fashion to the proposal we made on the eve of training camp on July 28th.

                                The Union Tribune article says AJ Smith got into these types of battles because he liked to do it. Claims Spanos is not of that tradition.

                                Does anyone know why the Mannings told the Chargers not to draft Eli?
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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