Winners and Losers: Browns Preseason Game 2016

[Patler]

One of the writers mentioned that Martinez played only with the starters, when they came out after the first two series, he came out. Somewhat unusual for a rookie, who would seem to need all the reps he cane get.

[Joemailman]

One of the writers mentioned that Martinez played only with the starters, when they came out after the first two series, he came out. Somewhat unusual for a rookie, who would seem to need all the reps he cane get.

Looks like they feel that Martinez is that rare rookie who seems ready to play right away. The real battle at that position might be between Thomas and Bradford, both of whom I believe got a lot of reps.

[pbmax]

This was the play I saw:

https://twitter.com/fduffy3/status/764458113751719937

The run actually gained a couple of yards, but it was a heck of a play. Facing the same situation on the other side of the play, Datone Jones gets swallowed up. It might be a reason why Jones is at OLB now.

You know what, I think that is the play I saw. From the sideline I thought he got double teamed, turned and hit the turf behind the play.

From this angle it looks like he got the initial hit on the ball carrier. Not too shabby when fighting off a double team. You can see his wrestler balance when he forces his way free of the center.

[gbgary]

no mention of abby for winners?

[smuggler]

So, is this a lot of camp hyperbole, or is Sam Barrington kind of fucked?

[pbmax]

So, is this a lot of camp hyperbole, or is Sam Barrington kind of fucked?

No, I think they still like him. He is getting prime time reps. Ryan is also hurt.

What I don't know is which ILB is #1 right now. So I don't know who Barrington has to catch to be starting in base and nickel.

[Patler]

I know it is early, and preseason game stars often disappear quickly and completely when September rolls around; but, I feel a little better about the ILB position than I did last year. It is sounding more and more like Martinez could be everything we hoped he would be. Maybe even one of those middle round guys that become the backbone of a team. Bradford might finally be adjusting to the position so that he can perform with the basic football skills that got him drafted so high in the first place, the skills coaches said he has shown in practice but hasn't been able to put into play in games. If Barrington can return at the level he was in 2014, and if Ryan takes a typical second year step, they could be OK at ILB.

[Fritz]

When you read the article about how badly the Packers might suffer without Pennel, you wonder when he became a central component of that defense. I thought he was still trying to learn the tricks of the trade!

Yet according to the JSO, they are screwed trying to stop the run until Pennel can get back and get into game form.

[pbmax]

When you read the article about how badly the Packers might suffer without Pennel, you wonder when he became a central component of that defense. I thought he was still trying to learn the tricks of the trade!

Yet according to the JSO, they are screwed trying to stop the run until Pennel can get back and get into game form.

No Raji accounts for some of this. If Raji was at nose, Guion could be the 5 in base.

[Fritz]

I thought the point was more that they lack a 5 tech for the base, and that Guion is not a natural there. Though why he couldn't play there on run downs, I don't know.

[pbmax]

I thought the point was more that they lack a 5 tech for the base, and that Guion is not a natural there. Though why he couldn't play there on run downs, I don't know.

He is more of a nose, though he is better at 5 than Raji or Pickett. But Guion must play nose now that Pennell has a suspension. They don't trust another nose tackle to move Guion outside as much as they hope a young player or rookie can play the 5.

I would not be stunned if they pick up a DE-DT during Pennell's suspension. Use the roster spot for the emergency and tryout and then see what happens during the lead up to Week 5.

[Teamcheez1]

Reggie Ragland probably done for the season with a torn ACL.
Sheldon Rankins with a broken fibula today.

Sometimes you need luck to avoid injuries.

[pbmax]

Andrew Billings is out with an injury too.

[RashanGary]

Should be able to get by with Daniels, Guion, Ringo, Clark (jones and peppers) and whoever makes the list out of the young guys.

[Joemailman]

Should be able to get by with Daniels, Guion, Ringo, Clark (jones and peppers) and whoever makes the list out of the young guys.

I think they're okay as long as Guion and Clark stay healthy. If either one gets hurt though, they'll need another NT until Pennel comes back.