O-line roster

[Harlan Huckleby]

I can't wrap my head around keeping Barclay on the roster. He's terrible. It's disappointing that no other guard can serve as emergency center.

[Patler]

To be fair to Barclay, he was terrible last year coming back from ACL surgery. He was not terrible his first couple years when he started 18 games.

[Fritz]

Barclay is like your right hand. Not nearly as good as the real thing, but it'll get you by.

Not you, specifically, Patler. Just the general population "you."

[pbmax]

To be fair to Barclay, he was terrible last year coming back from ACL surgery. He was not terrible his first couple years when he started 18 games.

He did follow that up by playing badly versus the Browns two weeks ago. But McCarthy said he has been better at Center.

[Patler]

He did follow that up by playing badly versus the Browns two weeks ago. But McCarthy said he has been better at Center.

That was his first game ever at center, and wasn't he "OK" except for one or two plays?
I've forgotten, did he play guard or tackle that game, or just center?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Last year Barclay managed to look OK by mid-season, but then his play steadily dropped. The end of the year couldn't come soon enough for him.

I think the fact that Barclay is being given a 2nd chance at center is an indication of a shortage of playable linemen league wide. I agree the fact that he was decent in 2013 (yes, it was that long ago) is what keeps hope alive.

[Patler]

Last year Barclay managed to look OK by mid-season, but then his play steadily dropped. The end of the year couldn't come soon enough for him.

I think the fact that Barclay is being given a 2nd chance at center is an indication of a shortage of playable linemen league wide. I agree the fact that he was decent in 2013 (yes, it was that long ago) is what keeps hope alive.

Of course it was 2013 that he last played well. He missed all of 2014 due the training camp injury, and struggled in 2015 coming back from it, as we all agree.

[MadScientist]

If Barclay can get them through a game at multiple positions he has significant value on the game day roster. Even if he is not the best backup at any given spot.

[Patler]

Looks like they can scratch Linsley for a while. He said today his hamstring is torn, but he will not have surgery. Suffered the initial injury in May, then made it worse in workouts during July.

The evils of the month of July. The month dreaded by all teams, during which players are on their own to get in trouble, get out of condition or hurt themselves while working out unsupervised.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Of course it was 2013 that he last played well. He missed all of 2014 due the training camp injury, and struggled in 2015 coming back from it, as we all agree.

Beyond expected struggles, he showed little progress through a whole season of playing time.

Barclay's potential to bounce back is unknown. Skepticism is justified.

[Patler]

Beyond expected struggles, he showed little progress through a whole season of playing time.

Barclay's potential to bounce back is unknown. Skepticism is justified.

I don't disagree with that. He was only marginally athletic enough to play in the NFL before his injury. If he can't return to what he was he will be in trouble.

[pbmax]

Looks like they can scratch Linsley for a while. He said today his hamstring is torn, but he will not have surgery. Suffered the initial injury in May, then made it worse in workouts during July.

The evils of the month of July. The month dreaded by all teams, during which players are on their own to get in trouble, get out of condition or hurt themselves while working out unsupervised.

I think each team needs one of these about once a decade so they can convince other players that not doing something is better than doing it and getting hurt worse.

[Radagast]

We often find it all to easy to be armchair Coaches and in this thread just as easy to post feelings rather than facts . The Packers O-Linemen , including the rookies, have worked during the off season as well as in TC to be the best they can be . Even the rookies learned in High School & in College the importance of stretching and warm ups . It is something that all players know about even though they are not themselves trainers . Accidental injuries , though unfortunate and unwanted , speaks to the injured players dedication to their continued improvement . Even in TC under the eye of the trainers, it is still up to each player to be honest concerning their physical condition , but we all know that players sometime fear to report their injuries thinking it might make them appear weak . It is not good that any players get injured, yet does not this sort of thing happen every season ?

[Fritz]

I think each team needs one of these about once a decade so they can convince other players that not doing something is better than doing it and getting hurt worse.

Corey would've been better off if he'd have gone down to Florida to hang out with Letroy Guion and his dad.

[Patler]

It is not good that any players get injured, yet does not this sort of thing happen every season ?

Yup, and often during the dead period after off season programs and before TC, when players are on their own. The Packers have had quite a few over the years, including Brandon Chillar who ended his career with a badly torn hamstring while working on his own.

There was an article a couple years ago that traced the frequency of "events" in July. Arrests and things like that weren't surprising, since it is the one time when players have weeks of free time. But there were also a lot of injuries. Players leaving the programs healthy at the end of June, then returning for TC with new or worsened injuries. It is impossible to avoid it, especially with guys who are workout maniacs, as many of them are.