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  • #16
    The UDFA wonders always seem to be at defensive back or WR or RB. The reason is that there are just a lot more talented athletes at that size floating around in the ether.

    I can't remember the last surprise lineman, but I'm sure there must be some example. Was Elliot drafted? Of course he has barely stuck, no great rags to riches story. Guess he is LB, not DE. Never mind.

    Maybe it is time for Blow Job Raji to get on the exercise bike.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
      I can't remember the last surprise lineman, but I'm sure there must be some example.

      UDFA linemen - Don Barclay, Mike Pennel and Lane Taylor.

      Barclay contributed right away his first year. The other two were just sort of there, although Pennel found his niche his second year.

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      • #18
        DEFENSIVE BACK (probably 10, maybe 11)

        LOCKS (6) - Sam Shields, Damarious Randall, Quinten Rollins, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Morgan Burnett, Micah Hyde
        LIKELY (1) - LaDarius Gunter

        BATTLES

        5th CB - Robertson Daniel vs. Josh Hawkins vs. Makinton Dorleant
        4th S - Chris Banjo vs. Kentrell Brice vs. Marwin Evans

        The rookies all have intriguing measurables, but the thing to remember is that Daniel and Banjo have equal measurables. Banjo is just an inch shorter than Brice and Evans. As overall athletes using my modified SPARK formula: Banjo = 78, Brice = 79, Evans = 79. I think Banjo's experience and ST prowess earns him a spot. Same with the CB competition. Using my modifed SPARK formula: Daniel = 81, Hawkins = 83, Dorleant = 78. Daniel is bigger than the other two guys. He and Gunter are the only big CBs that have a chance of making the roster. I think Daniel's size and experience earns him a spot.

        That leaves the rookies battling it for a 10th DB position (and perhaps an 11th spot). I think Dorleant is the most likely to be cut and perhaps the easiest to get back on the PS. Brice vs. Evans is too close to call right now. My gut tells me they keep Hawkins and then try to get either Brice or Evans on the practice squad.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          UDFA linemen - Don Barclay, Mike Pennel and Lane Taylor.

          Barclay contributed right away his first year. The other two were just sort of there, although Pennel found his niche his second year.
          Don't forget the tantalizing promise but shorted career of Lawrence Guy. He would have been Reggie White if the Colts hadn't snatched him away.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Don't forget the tantalizing promise but shorted career of Lawrence Guy. He would have been Reggie White if the Colts hadn't snatched him away.
            Guy was not a UDFA. He was a 7th round pick in 2011.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Don't forget the tantalizing promise but shorted career of Lawrence Guy. He would have been Reggie White if the Colts hadn't snatched him away.
              Guy was not a UDFA. He was a 7th round pick in 2011.
              pb must have been thinking of Nick McDonald, who owed his All-Pro career to the better coaching he received from the NE Patriots, according to former JS writer Greg Bedard. Oh........ Wait.........

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                pb must have been thinking of Nick McDonald, who owed his All-Pro career to the better coaching he received from the NE Patriots, according to former JS writer Greg Bedard. Oh........ Wait.........
                I still think Greg Bedard should be retroactively fired for that opinion

                But I did think Guy was a UDFA. Being a 7th round pick somehow tarnishes the whole affair.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                  I don't think they are letting Hawkins go
                  Can't teach that speed; I see some Sammie Shields
                  Agree. From what I've read/heard Hawkins has been more consistent, but they like Dorleant. Daniel has a battle on his hands. I think they keep Hawkins and put the others on the P.S. They'll also try to sneak Evans on the PS too and Banjo and Brice make it.
                  Maybe they keep another CB and one less S instead; Hyde can play both, plus Goodson is on suspension.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                    Agree. From what I've read/heard Hawkins has been more consistent, but they like Dorleant. Daniel has a battle on his hands. I think they keep Hawkins and put the others on the P.S. They'll also try to sneak Evans on the PS too and Banjo and Brice make it.
                    Maybe they keep another CB and one less S instead; Hyde can play both, plus Goodson is on suspension.
                    THIS IS SUCKER TIME- The time of the yr when we fall in love with UDFA's and then whine when one gets cut and snapped up by another team. I've fallen victim again

                    I want Hawkins to make the team. Upside seems very high.
                    I want Evans to make the team.

                    Banjo is what he is; he's ok.

                    He's like the girl you flirt with and reserve picking up at the bar at 1:00 Am when you know you're not gonig to home til 2:00 AM because you're confident it will be a decent night. But he's the girl you want to replace with a hotter one if given the opportunity.
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #25
                      ^ How dare you treat Banjo like a one night stand or FWB. He had given us so many good treads and puns.

                      Speaking of which, where the heck is Rand?
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                        THIS IS SUCKER TIME- The time of the yr when we fall in love with UDFA's and then whine when one gets cut and snapped up by another team. I've fallen victim again

                        I want Hawkins to make the team. Upside seems very high.
                        I want Evans to make the team.

                        Banjo is what he is; he's ok.

                        He's like the girl you flirt with and reserve picking up at the bar at 1:00 Am when you know you're not gonig to home til 2:00 AM because you're confident it will be a decent night. But he's the girl you want to replace with a hotter one if given the opportunity.
                        And then at 2:00 am when you whiffed on the super hot girl, you see your back up girl leaving the club with someone else, and it's at that moment you realize you were everybody else's backup.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                          And then at 2:00 am when you whiffed on the super hot girl, you see your back up girl leaving the club with someone else, and it's at that moment you realize you were everybody else's backup.
                          And when the lights go on the super hot girl you were oggling turns out to be a tranny. So you go home discouraged and lonely again, but at least relieved that you dodged a bullet. We've all been there.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                            And when the lights go on the super hot girl you were oggling turns out to be a tranny. So you go home discouraged and lonely again, but at least relieved that you dodged a bullet. We've all been there.
                            The Cardinal Bar?
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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