A Gameplan For The Bears

[BEARMAN]

Hey, I don't go around calling you Pisspackers, or Fudgepackers. I do call you cheeseheads, but you seem to like that? Anyway, stop callin my team names or I'll tell.


GO BEARS !

[Dabaddestbear]

badbear,

...My biggest critique of your analysis is regarding our secondary, and Al Harris in particular. ... [/img]

Ok, I do havta give Harris more credit than I did in my previous post. But the fact is with Woodson covering the #1 now(correct me if I'm wrong) Grossman will look for the long ball often. And if he is covering the speedy Berrian, Bradley, or Davis look to hear Packer fans across the nation to be screaming "WHAT DA HELL IS HE DOING!!!???"

[Packnut]

WR

badbear,

...My biggest critique of your analysis is regarding our secondary, and Al Harris in particular. ... [/img]

Ok, I do havta give Harris more credit than I did in my previous post. But the fact is with Woodson covering the #1 now(correct me if I'm wrong) Grossman will look for the long ball often. And if he is covering the speedy Berrian, Bradley, or Davis look to hear Packer fans across the nation to be screaming "WHAT DA HELL IS HE DOING!!!???"

Your team has no #2 or #3 WR much less a TE. Everyone in the world seem's to know that except you.

[MJZiggy]

I don't remember anything saying Woodson was going to be married to covering the #1...fact is no one knows what to expect here. Except the Packers.

[wist43]

Late to this thread, but:

Gameplan Offense:

Run the ball, run the ball, (short pass, or run the ball), and punt. I would prefer to see the Packers have 12 punts, than 4 turnovers.

Against an anemic offense like the Bears - punting isn't a crime, it should be an integral part of the game plan. Sadly, I don't think McCarthy will exercise that kind of patience.

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Gameplan defense:

Eight men in the box on run downs, and blitz the hell out of Grossman on passing downs.

Sadly, I don't think they'll do this either...

Bears 24
Packers 10

10 points might be too optimistic though.

[MJZiggy]

Ok, Eeyore...

[Willard]

Late to this thread, but:

Gameplan Offense:

Run the ball, run the ball, (short pass, or run the ball), and punt. I would prefer to see the Packers have 12 punts, than 4 turnovers.

Against an anemic offense like the Bears - punting isn't a crime, it should be an integral part of the game plan.

Wist, Are you OK with the Pack at least waiting until 4th down to punt or do you advocate the "surprise pooch punt" now and again?

[Dabaddestbear]

Packer fans, on th ewhole are wary of teh team. The talent isthere for a good offense and a good defense. The question is will it come together. The Falcons game gave GB hope things were improving.

Vick was taken out after only two possesions. They played the backup QB.

Number one, both Bear RBs are dinged up. They have not played much in the pre-season and have not practiced as much. So the Bears running game is suspect for week one.

Wrong. Thomas Jones is fully healed without question and knows the offense in and out so sitting out 3 of 4 preseason games will only have him coming in with fresh legs. Benson said he is about 95% and will be the backup. There is no question marks there.

The Bear WR have not really improved that much since last year. That leaves Muhamed to be the biggest target. Mushin has never been a threat where he needs to be triple covered and in most cases he will be doubled but he wil alos be in single coverage a lot more than you would expect. The Bears brought no-one in or has any other receiver developed to put pressure on the young GB secondary.

You havent been watching any preseason game or listening to the talk from the Bears camp about Berrian, Davis and Bradley have you? The WR's have got free most of the time its just if Grossman can calm down and get the ball to them. Trust me if you single cover the Bears speedy young WR's one will break lose on you for a TD. I said it hear first.

Right now I give the advantage to the GB defense to stop the Bears and the only sore spot is GBs pass rush, but amazingly enough it does seem to work against the Bears.

Only against Orton who has a had a habit of holding the ball until the sunset looms. And even against him he was able to make some connections against the Pack pass rush. Remember you wont see him since he is the 3rd string QB. So your argument of a good pass rush against the Bears is more than flawed.

You can't look at last year and say that the GB OL has went down. We had two crappy guards and our center was playing after a hernia operation. So the OL play will be a little better his year.

Are you serious? This line could possibly be worst than last years. You replaced last years so called crappy guards with two rookie inexperienced and mostly crappy guards. And a little better will not be enough improvement from last years O-line play. It will have to be vastly improved for Brett to survive. Especially with the new blocking scheme.

The addition of Jennings will give the Bears more to cover than just Driver (Walker was out for both games). Franks will also be at 100% and that means the LBs will have more work to do than just stuff the run and blitz.

Umm, Vasher(you know that ProBowl guy) will have no problem covering Jennings. And Franks will be covered by the other ProBowlers Urlacher and Briggs. That same Briggs that put him out the game with a jarring hit. Franks will be the least of the problems if any for the Bears linebackers.

GB has Green returning and I have already mentioned Jennings, Franks & Driver. Should Green have an average day with 50+ yards rushing (3.5+ avg) and receive about 5 passes for 35-50 yards then the Bears will be hurting. They will have to committ to stopping and covering Green which may open up Franks, or one of the WRs for a good day. The young line may not move the middle, but GB did look average to above average on sweeps. Don't expect GB to just run up the middle all day.

Is this a comedy act you are practicing for pregame tailgating party? If you think Green getting 50 yards rushnig is going to slow the Bears down then I feel sorry for any peewee league you may happen to coach. And Green coming out the backfield to catch passes wont happen much since he will be thinking about Urlacher laying him out as soon as Brett leads him into the defense. And contrary to your beliefs, GB best chance would be to go up the middle agains the Bears. you dont try to run sweeps and tosses to the outside against a defense as solid and as quick as the Bears. That would be asking for a 5-6 yard loss.

Overall, these two teams are pretty even. The win here is going to the team that wins the TO battle. Should the GB offense stick with the WC style offense it will have a better chance of winning this battle.

My prediction is GB 17 Chicago 13 with GB getting a FG in the fourth to secure the victory.

I have to give you credit for trying to make your points but as you see they can seem quite flawed. These two teams are not even. The Bears have a solid Defense with a questionable offense. The Packers have a questionable everything.
By the way everyone is forgettting special teams in which the Bears have Devin Hester returning punts like a beast and you have a punter that have booted well but has outkicked his coverage.

[MJZiggy]

Late to this thread, but:

Gameplan Offense:

Run the ball, run the ball, (short pass, or run the ball), and punt. I would prefer to see the Packers have 12 punts, than 4 turnovers.

Against an anemic offense like the Bears - punting isn't a crime, it should be an integral part of the game plan. Sadly, I don't think McCarthy will exercise that kind of patience.

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Gameplan defense:

Eight men in the box on run downs, and blitz the hell out of Grossman on passing downs.

Sadly, I don't think they'll do this either...

Bears 24
Packers 10

10 points might be too optimistic though.

"...By all means, we're not going to line up and run two runs and one pass and so forth. We feel like we have plenty of ammunition."
Mike McCarthy 9-6-06

[Dabaddestbear]

Re: Mistake

You should feel ashamed for your lack of knowledge and feel pretty foolish about your comment on Harris. This is the same Al Harris who shut down Chad Johnson. Now does'nt common sense tell you that if he could shut down the best WR in the game, he can handle your guy? As for Woodson, he'll have no trouble with your #2 who would be #4 on most teams.

That leaves your running game. As bad as the Pack run D is, you just can't show up the 1st game and believe it will gel after very little practice.

May I also remind you that a pathetic talent-less offense rolled up 726 yds against your vaunted D last season. We had no red zone offense, but that will be a different story come Sunday.

One last thought- a certain QB who wears #4 and has been nick-named "the Bear Killer" might just prove his death was a bit pre-mature and he just might rise up and bitch slap your team like he has done so many times in the past!

Like I said earlier I do havta give Harris a littel more credit. But also keep in mind that all last year most QB's didnt throw his way not because he was so good but becuase Carrol was so bad. Who can resist the temptation to pass up a certain holding penalty that Ahmad was gift wrapping each game?

And about Woodson being able to cover our #2's that would be in your view be #4's on another team----Umm, Woodson got burned consistantly by #3 and 4's in his last preseason game. Did you think he was getting burned by the starting WR's?

The Bears runing offense is exactly the same as last year with the same personel operating it. Which features T. Jones. You know that same guy that totaled over 200 yards against the pack last year.

C'mon man you can give me better stuff than this.

[Dabaddestbear]

The Bears should have beaten the Panthers easily. The Bears should also win this game easily. You have to wonder if they'll handle the pressure of high expectations better this weekend than they did last time.

So if the Bears win as expected, I'll be the first to say congratulations - for not choking.

If they lose, and the Packers win - I'm going to laugh my ass off.

So if the Packers lose are you going to cry your ass off?
First of all the difference is the Packers are not the Panthers. So how about you tell me how the team YOU ROOT FOR will do against the Bears.

Odd how you are already discounting a possible win for the Bears. If they win, they were supposed to. If they lose, they just happened not to choke? You are a classic as always.

You say they should win. So are you telling all the Packer fans on here that is assuming otherwise that they are wrong? If so give me or them an analysis either way.

[Dabaddestbear]

The Bears have a really good defense, good special teams and believe it or not, they have a chance to have a good offense with a cohesive line, at least one good WR and 2 good RB's.

Grossman is young, he's been injury proned. It's easy to say he sucks and poke at Bear fans because he hasn't been able to play because that is the easiest thing to do. I think Grossman is going to surprise alot of people this year. He's got a good arm. He moves around well enough. He's a fighter and seems aware enough not to make the horrible play. The best thing he has going for him is that he won't be asked to do too much. When QB's are asked simply not to lose the game like Brady was a for a few years then they can play safe and take that shot when it opens. When QB's are asked to make things happen and be the difference in games, that is when bad things happen.

Make no mistake about it, the Bears are a legit title contender and the Packers are a bottom of the barrel rebuilding team. Hearing you guys defend the Packers and knock the Bears is embarassing as a Packer fan. We're smarter than that. We can think with our minds and not our emotions. Oh wait.....

The Packers suck.

Bears 24, Packers 10

This post is good not because he predicted the Bears would win but because he actually gave an reason why or why not. Something some fans on here find it hard to do. Go ahead say "the Bears are gonna lose cuz they just suck!!"

[b bulldog]

While the Bears should win tghis weekend, they do have many injuries that could derail them. Mike Brown being out is huge in my opinion. He is a smart, ball hawking S who makes plays and his absence will be noticed. In regards to the Carolina game, the Panthers were the better team and showed it on the field. I don't think anyone outside of Chicago was surprised that the Bears lost, just how they lost. I was wondering something, if I was a BeaRS FAN, I would grow tired of how some want to compare their current D to the 85 D, NO SIMILARITIES WHAT SO EVER!

[Dabaddestbear]

Re: WR

badbear,

...My biggest critique of your analysis is regarding our secondary, and Al Harris in particular. ... [/img]

Ok, I do havta give Harris more credit than I did in my previous post. But the fact is with Woodson covering the #1 now(correct me if I'm wrong) Grossman will look for the long ball often. And if he is covering the speedy Berrian, Bradley, or Davis look to hear Packer fans across the nation to be screaming "WHAT DA HELL IS HE DOING!!!???"

Your team has no #2 or #3 WR much less a TE. Everyone in the world seem's to know that except you.

And everyone seems to know the Packers suck but you. Fair exchange except for the fact everyone thinks your entire team sucks not just one player.

[Dabaddestbear]

Late to this thread, but:

Gameplan Offense:

Run the ball, run the ball, (short pass, or run the ball), and punt. I would prefer to see the Packers have 12 punts, than 4 turnovers.

Against an anemic offense like the Bears - punting isn't a crime, it should be an integral part of the game plan. Sadly, I don't think McCarthy will exercise that kind of patience.

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Gameplan defense:

Eight men in the box on run downs, and blitz the hell out of Grossman on passing downs.

Sadly, I don't think they'll do this either...

Bears 24
Packers 10

10 points might be too optimistic though.

The point is Wist, that if you punt too often you give Devin Hester an oppurtunity to run one back for either real good field possition or an TD. The kid is good.
Here is a video of him.

http://rapidshare.de/files/31821109/_Hester_54yardreturn_wk4ps.avi.html