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  • #16
    Does anybody care who the punter is? They're barely part of the team. They give them a jersey from the Packer pro shop and some tiny fake shoulder pads. You know they'll be replaced by another interchangeable part as soon as they hit a slump. They are like hookers who move from team to team to team.

    Punts are boring plays that you just want to get over with. I know they matter, but so do extra points and coin flips.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
      Does anybody care who the punter is? They're barely part of the team. They give them a jersey from the Packer pro shop and some tiny fake shoulder pads. You know they'll be replaced by another interchangeable part as soon as they hit a slump. They are like hookers who move from team to team to team.

      Punts are boring plays that you just want to get over with. I know they matter, but so do extra points and coin flips.
      Next thing you know you'll be asking does anybody care who the long snapper is. They can play on the line in a pinch.
      Maybe not.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by smuggler View Post
        He was a "plus" player there for a few years, but he's really struggled the last two seasons, even as the coverage units have improved. Sad to see him go, I enjoyed his goofy ass trick plays.
        Agreed. He was pretty awful two years ago and not as good as his stats last year. Before that, he was a pretty good punter. I believe his struggles started around the time his Dad died.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Packers must have hired Mike Stock as a consultant.

          I wonder if they are sitting on some bad Masthay news.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Packers must have hired Mike Stock as a consultant.

            I wonder if they are sitting on some bad Masthay news.
            I suppose the team felt they couldn't afford to cut anyone left to open up a spot for a mini competition at punter. They must've watched a lot of film of this guy punting (Harlan, you know you'd get a boner watching a guy punt over and over and over). And they must've been scouting him pre-season. No mention of his hang times.

            I was surprised in the JSPG at how poor Masthay's gross and inside-the-20 numbers were last year. I thought he was supposed to be good at dropping them inside the 20.

            I don't see this like Jon Ryan at all. Lots of Rats thought Ryan was damn good; I believe the Packers just didn't want to pony up - think it was his contract year? Masthay already got the big contract; he just underperformed. In the last article on him he sounded like some desperate Buddhist guru - flowing through the kick, rhythm, using the ground for power.

            And now he's gone. Maybe if the new guy doesn't work out they can re-sign Masthay on the cheap.

            Shanks for the memories, Tim.
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • #21
              Farewell, Ginger Wolverine...

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              • #22
                The death of Dr Shankenstein.

                To Wootah's point, does the new guy have red hair, too?

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                • #23
                  This is some weird Ted voodoo. This kids numbers aren't great from last year. Was he a monster in college?
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    This is some weird Ted voodoo. This kids numbers aren't great from last year. Was he a monster in college?
                    The only thing I can think of is that maybe he is consistently mediocre, whereas Masthay had more radical extremes. The most disturbing thing with Masthay last year was that many of his bad punts came at times when a decent punt was needed the most. Perhaps Schum's consistent mediocrity is preferable in those situations.

                    Then again, maybe the reason was as simple as deciding that either one will provide only mediocre punting, and there is no sense in paying Masthay $1.2 M when you can get the same result from Schum for a minimum salary (which I presume is about all that he received).

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      The only thing I can think of is that maybe he is consistently mediocre, whereas Masthay had more radical extremes. The most disturbing thing with Masthay last year was that many of his bad punts came at times when a decent punt was needed the most. Perhaps Schum's consistent mediocrity is preferable in those situations.

                      Then again, maybe the reason was as simple as deciding that either one will provide only mediocre punting, and there is no sense in paying Masthay $1.2 M when you can get the same result from Schum for a minimum salary (which I presume is about all that he received).
                      Agree with the 2nd point unless there is some big issue that is unknown.

                      Masthay really seemed to get a handle on the Aussie style punting but that got away from him over the last 2 years. And like Jon Ryan before him, his best punts seemed to come when he was already at midfield.

                      Could always be that whatever tick they thought he developed that hurt him has not really gone away.

                      I just hope they did not cut more upside (Mortell) to get a guy with 1 year game experience (and 3 years of camp).
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Agree with the 2nd point unless there is some big issue that is unknown.

                        Masthay really seemed to get a handle on the Aussie style punting but that got away from him over the last 2 years. And like Jon Ryan before him, his best punts seemed to come when he was already at midfield.

                        Could always be that whatever tick they thought he developed that hurt him has not really gone away.

                        I just hope they did not cut more upside (Mortell) to get a guy with 1 year game experience (and 3 years of camp).
                        You are right about that Aussie style punt. 3-4 years ago there were several articles about Masthay being one of the first to really master it, being able to dial in whatever distance he needed. The last couple years too many of his "inside the 20" kicks that look to be positive results were between the 15 and 20, so not really all that successful.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Agree with the 2nd point unless there is some big issue that is unknown.

                          Masthay really seemed to get a handle on the Aussie style punting but that got away from him over the last 2 years. And like Jon Ryan before him, his best punts seemed to come when he was already at midfield.

                          Could always be that whatever tick they thought he developed that hurt him has not really gone away.

                          I just hope they did not cut more upside (Mortell) to get a guy with 1 year game experience (and 3 years of camp).

                          Could be that under the "it takes three years for a punter to develop" Ted figures, based on the scouting reports, that Schum is ready to explode onto the national punting scene.

                          Or it could be that he's paying less for the same mediocrity this year, and has already whispered to Mortell (is that the spelling?) to practice up and come back next year.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #28
                            Teddy's smitten.

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                            • #29
                              I thought I read somewhere that Schum's hang time was better than Masthay's...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                                Or it could be that he's paying less for the same mediocrity this year, and has already whispered to Mortell (is that the spelling?) to practice up and come back next year.
                                ...or to stay by the phone in case they want him sometime in the next couple weeks. Schum could be there more on a tryout than anything else. Heck, after tomorrow night they might even bring Masthay back. I have a feeling they aren't done with the punting position yet.

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