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  • #31
    Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
    Prior to last year the Packers only kept 5 WR's, even when we thought 6 deserved to stick. Now people here are thinking they'll keep 7? They'll keep 6 and try to get Allison on the PS. His lack of doing much in the final game will help get him through, and if he doesn't, good luck to him. The spot will likely go to Callahan or the best ST guy that would otherwise be cut.
    TT has gone with some strange combinations before. 6 TE's one year. I'm not arguing for Allison over Callahan. Just playing a hunch.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      TT has gone with some strange combinations before. 6 TE's one year. I'm not arguing for Allison over Callahan. Just playing a hunch.
      Gunter is suspend for the first 4 games like Pennell.
      But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

      -Tim Harmston

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      • #33
        Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
        Gunter is suspend for the first 4 games like Pennell.
        Actually, it's Goodson who is suspended.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #34
          This is without benefit of seeing the fourth game (just hearing reports). Once again, the NFL Network will show the Packers final preseason game after the Packers have made their cuts.

          QB Aaron Rodgers, Brett Hundley
          RB Eddie Lacy, James Starks, Brandon Burks
          FB Aaron Ripkowski
          WR Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, Ty Montgomery, Jared Abbrederis, Jeff Janis, Trevor Davis
          TE Jared Cook, Richard Rodgers, Justin Perillo
          OL David Bakhtiari, Josh Sitton, J.C. Tretter, T.J. Lang, Jason Spriggs, Don Barclay, Kyle Murphy, Lucas Patrick
          DL Mike Daniels, Letroy Guion, Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Brian Price
          OLB Clay Matthews, Nick Perry, Julius Peppers, Datone Jones, Kyler Fackrell, Jayrone Elliott
          ILB Blake Martinez, Jake Ryan, Sam Barrington, Joe Thomas
          CB Sam Shields, Damarious Randall, Quinten Rollins, LaDarius Gunter, Josh Hawkins
          S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Morgan Burnett, Micah Hyde (CB), Kentrell Brice, Chris Banjo
          ST Mason Crosby, Jacob Schum, Rick Lovato

          PUP: OL Corey Linsley
          SUSP: DL Mike Pennel, CB Demetri Goodson
          IR: RB John Crockett, TE Kennard Backman, OL Josh Walker

          PS: QB Joe Callahan, WR Geronimo Allison, DL Christian Ringo, DL Tyler Kuder, OLB Reggie Gilbert, ILB Carl Bradford, CB Robertson Daniel, CB Makinton Dorleant, S Marwin Evans (that's nine guys and there's usually a player or two that comes in from another team's roster)

          I think I only had one change from my last projection: Lucas Patrick in for Lane Taylor.

          I think Brandon Burks and Justin Perillo may be candidates to get replaced by somebody on another team's roster.

          Robertson Daniel vs. Josh Hawkins was a tough one. I wouldn't be shocked if Hawkins and Daniel both beat out LaDarius Gunter.

          Another tough one was Brian Price vs. Christian Ringo vs. Tyler Kuder. It sounds like all three had good games vs. the Chiefs. Apparently, it was Ringo's best game. However, without the benefit of seeing the game I have to go with the player (Price) who impressed me more in the first three games.

          Leaving Carl Bradford off the team was tough, but most teams can't afford the luxury of having 5 ILBs. Another one that wouldn't shock me is Sam Barrington not making the team. Depending on the health of Joe Thomas, Bradford and Barrington both might make it.

          If Trevor Davis is healthy, I think the Packers will keep 7 WRs. If Davis is put on IR, that may open up a spot for Daniel, Bradford, Ringo, or Kuder.
          Last edited by HarveyWallbangers; 09-02-2016, 11:33 PM.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #35
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
            This is without benefit of seeing the fourth game (just hearing reports). Once again, the NFL Network will show the Packers final preseason game after the Packers have made their cuts.

            QB Aaron Rodgers, Brett Hundley
            RB Eddie Lacy, James Starks, Brandon Burks
            FB Aaron Ripkowski
            WR Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, Ty Montgomery, Jared Abbrederis, Jeff Janis, Trevor Davis
            TE Jared Cook, Richard Rodgers, Justin Perillo
            OL David Bakhtiari, Josh Sitton, J.C. Tretter, T.J. Lang, Jason Spriggs, Don Barclay, Kyle Murphy, Lucas Patrick
            DL Mike Daniels, Letroy Guion, Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Brian Price
            OLB Clay Matthews, Nick Perry, Julius Peppers, Datone Jones, Kyler Fackrell, Jayrone Elliott
            ILB Blake Martinez, Jake Ryan, Sam Barrington, Joe Thomas
            CB Sam Shields, Damarious Randall, Quinten Rollins, LaDarius Gunter, Josh Hawkins
            S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Morgan Burnett, Micah Hyde (CB), Kentrell Brice, Chris Banjo
            ST Mason Crosby, Jacob Schum, Rick Lovato

            PUP: OL Corey Linsley
            SUSP: DL Mike Pennel, CB Demetri Goodson
            IR: RB John Crockett, TE Kennard Backman, OL Josh Walker

            PS: QB Joe Callahan, WR Geronimo Allison, DL Christian Ringo, DL Tyler Kuder, OLB Reggie Gilbert, ILB Carl Bradford, CB Robertson Daniel, CB Makinton Dorleant, S Marwin Evans (that's nine guys and there's usually a player or two that comes in from another team's roster)

            I think I only had one change from my last projection: Lucas Patrick in for Lane Taylor.

            I think Brandon Burks and Justin Perillo may be candidates to get replaced by somebody on another team's roster.

            Robertson Daniel vs. Josh Hawkins was a tough one. I wouldn't be shocked if Hawkins and Daniel both beat out LaDarius Gunter.

            Another tough one was Brian Price vs. Christian Ringo vs. Tyler Kuder. It sounds like all three had good games vs. the Chiefs. Apparently, it was Ringo's best game. However, without the benefit of seeing the game I have to go with the player (Price) who impressed me more in the first three games.

            Leaving Carl Bradford off the team was tough, but most teams can't afford the luxury of having 5 ILBs. Another one that wouldn't shock me is Sam Barrington not making the team. Depending on the health of Joe Thomas, Bradford and Barrington both might make it.

            If Trevor Davis is healthy, I think the Packers will keep 7 WRs. If Davis is put on IR, that may open up a spot for Daniel, Bradford, Ringo, or Kuder.
            I think you're 62 out of 62 with the practice squad guys barring 1 or 2 making the 53 vs. another promising undrafted rookie who you have on the roster. And 1 or 2 of those guys might get snatched up by teams lacking depth in certain areas.

            Banjo, Elliott, Davis, Thomas and/or Dorleant could get IR'd yet.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              QB (2) Rodgers, Hundley
              RB (4) Lacy, Starks, Ripkowski, Burks
              WR (7) Abbrederis, Adams, Cobb, Janis, Montgomery, Nelson, Allison
              TE (3) Cook, Rodgers, Perillo
              OL (9) Tretter, Lang, Sitton, Bakhtiari, Bulaga, Murphy, Spriggs, Barclay, Taylor
              DL (5) Lowry, Clark, Daniels, Guion, Ringo,
              LB (10) Barrington, Bradford, Elliott, Fackrell, Martinez, Jones, Matthews, Peppers, Perry, Thomas
              DB (10) Gunter, Hawkins, Randall, Rollins, Shields, Hyde, Banjo, Brice, Burnett, Clinton-Dix
              ST (3) Crosby, Schum, Lovato

              PUP: Linsley
              Suspended: Pennell
              IR: Backman, Crockett, Flores, Walker, Davis, Dorleant
              PS: Brown, Gilbert, Callahan, Ross, Evans, Price, Steuck, Daniel, Patrick, Kuder

              The last pick came down to Allison, Callahan and Price. I figured Allison is the one most likely to be claimed on waivers. As for losing them once they're on the practice squad, Allison would be the one most likely to want to leave if claimed by another team.
              Good call on Ringo over Price Joe - unless they are gonna try to sneak by with 4 plus Peppers and Jones until Pennel returns... Gotta believe Price is a practice squad target too so he could be promoted if someone gets hurt if they do go that way. Four guys seems pretty thin particularly for the potentially extreme heat in Jax.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                This is without benefit of seeing the fourth game (just hearing reports). Once again, the NFL Network will show the Packers final preseason game after the Packers have made their cuts.

                QB Aaron Rodgers, Brett Hundley
                RB Eddie Lacy, James Starks, Brandon Burks
                FB Aaron Ripkowski
                WR Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, Ty Montgomery, Jared Abbrederis, Jeff Janis, Trevor Davis
                TE Jared Cook, Richard Rodgers, Justin Perillo
                OL David Bakhtiari, Josh Sitton, J.C. Tretter, T.J. Lang, Jason Spriggs, Don Barclay, Kyle Murphy, Lucas Patrick
                DL Mike Daniels, Letroy Guion, Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Brian Price
                OLB Clay Matthews, Nick Perry, Julius Peppers, Datone Jones, Kyler Fackrell, Jayrone Elliott
                ILB Blake Martinez, Jake Ryan, Sam Barrington, Joe Thomas
                CB Sam Shields, Damarious Randall, Quinten Rollins, LaDarius Gunter, Josh Hawkins
                S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Morgan Burnett, Micah Hyde (CB), Kentrell Brice, Chris Banjo
                ST Mason Crosby, Jacob Schum, Rick Lovato

                PUP: OL Corey Linsley
                SUSP: DL Mike Pennel, CB Demetri Goodson
                IR: RB John Crockett, TE Kennard Backman, OL Josh Walker

                PS: QB Joe Callahan, WR Geronimo Allison, DL Christian Ringo, DL Tyler Kuder, OLB Reggie Gilbert, ILB Carl Bradford, CB Robertson Daniel, CB Makinton Dorleant, S Marwin Evans (that's nine guys and there's usually a player or two that comes in from another team's roster)

                I think I only had one change from my last projection: Lucas Patrick in for Lane Taylor.

                I think Brandon Burks and Justin Perillo may be candidates to get replaced by somebody on another team's roster.

                Robertson Daniel vs. Josh Hawkins was a tough one. I wouldn't be shocked if Hawkins and Daniel both beat out LaDarius Gunter.

                Another tough one was Brian Price vs. Christian Ringo vs. Tyler Kuder. It sounds like all three had good games vs. the Chiefs. Apparently, it was Ringo's best game. However, without the benefit of seeing the game I have to go with the player (Price) who impressed me more in the first three games.

                Leaving Carl Bradford off the team was tough, but most teams can't afford the luxury of having 5 ILBs. Another one that wouldn't shock me is Sam Barrington not making the team. Depending on the health of Joe Thomas, Bradford and Barrington both might make it.

                If Trevor Davis is healthy, I think the Packers will keep 7 WRs. If Davis is put on IR, that may open up a spot for Daniel, Bradford, Ringo, or Kuder.
                You don't want to endure that preseason game. It was brutal.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by vince View Post
                  Good call on Ringo over Price Joe - unless they are gonna try to sneak by with 4 plus Peppers and Jones until Pennel returns... Gotta believe Price is a practice squad target too so he could be promoted if someone gets hurt if they do go that way. Four guys seems pretty thin particularly for the potentially extreme heat in Jax.
                  Price was cut this morning.

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                  • #39
                    I am mostly in agreement with HH. I agree with Patrick over Adams, there's no reason to spend a couple million on Adams. He hasn't distinguished himself over Patrick. In trying to keep the best talent regardless of position, Murphy could be cut to make room for a better talent at WR or DB. They should be able to get Murphy to the PS.

                    Without any info on the extent of injuries to Davis and even Banjo, its difficult to predict a couple of the spots. I'm thinking they will stash Davis on IR and give him a year to work on size and strength. With the WRs ahead of him, he wouldn't be active on game days anyway, so they might as well stash him on IR if they can.

                    I wouldn't be surprised to see them go with just Lacy and Starks at RB. They have often had just Lacy and Starks active on game days anyway. They might rather lockup another WR or DB than a runningback who is nothing special anyway and can be held on the practice squad for potential signing if/when Lacy or Starks gets dinged up.

                    I won't be surprised if they look for a blocking TE after all the cuts get in. Perillo doesn't really add much to the roster.

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                    • #40
                      Yeah I could see them keeping only 2 RB's too, especially given Burks' loose handling of the football yet. Pretty sure he fumbled twice in his limited preseason action. He'll need to clean that up if he makes the squad or he'll be out of a job quickly. I think he has good vision and cut-back ability but you can't play if you can't secure the ball. That's his flag right now.

                      And like you said Patler, Burks isn't going to be in high demand on the waiver wire. Heck Dexter McCluster is out there right now. He'd be a great get for a third down back unless he's damaged goods. I'm assuming he was a victim of the numbers and the new pound-it style of play being implemented in TN.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                        This is without benefit of seeing the fourth game (just hearing reports).
                        ...
                        Robertson Daniel vs. Josh Hawkins was a tough one. I wouldn't be shocked if Hawkins and Daniel both beat out LaDarius Gunter.
                        I'd be shocked and very disappointed if they keep Daniel over Gunter. Daniel has the measurables but he was semi-abused by the KC back-ups. Late into the 2nd quarter Daniel was about the only guy giving up yards. He must have been attacked successfully 5 times in the first half. He bounced back a bit but he can't cover or make a play on the ball like Gunter can.

                        Gunter can use his length, physicality and good technique cutting off deep routes while turning to look for the ball, using the sideline, etc. to overcome his lack of top-end speed. Al Harris made a pretty damn good career on the outside without much speed.

                        Bottom line IMO is Gunter's flags can be overcome. Other than running with guys, I don't see a great athlete or playmaking ability in Daniel. He just allows too much separation and gives up too many plays IMO.

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                        • #42
                          Daniel was playing the dime corner and had those late crossing routes the Packers have huge trouble covering, as they run them through a double pick at midfield.

                          Gunter had some brutal plays in preseason and a couple of penalties. He might still be the octopus but his warts showed. I thought the young safeties played as well as the young, backup CBs.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Patler View Post
                            I am mostly in agreement with HH.
                            Always a wise course, but you must mean HW.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                              Price was cut this morning.
                              So was Patrick.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #45
                                Cutting Price surprises me slightly. TT must be fantasizing about another fat guy somewhere.

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