Josh Sitton.

[Harlan Huckleby]

i'm guessing lang will be gone by the start of next season too

Barclay can move to guard for Jacksonville.

ps. And don't forget, Brett Goode can play center in a pinch.

[Harlan Huckleby]

So the distraction explanation is completely off the board as far as you are concerned?

Events can be explained without going there. Certainly the threat of him sitting out is far fetched and illogical. I can't rule out anything.

[vince]

105.7 The Fan @1057TheFan
2 sources tell @Bill_Michaels that there was an increasingly contentious relationship between Josh Sitton and #Packers Coaches/Management

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105.7 The Fan @1057TheFan
2 sources tell @Bill_Michaels that there was an increasingly contentious relationship between Josh Sitton and #Packers Coaches/Management

the 2 sources could be TT and M3 and they feel that way because sitton didn't wave to TT on saturday when he passed him in the parking lot

[hoosier]

105.7 The Fan @1057TheFan
2 sources tell @Bill_Michaels that there was an increasingly contentious relationship between Josh Sitton and #Packers Coaches/Management

Contentious doesn't meet the standard for me. You can keep contentious around for the rest of the year; you reap the benefits of a guy playing for his next contract and you avoid setting a precedent for other players who might want to get out of their old deals in the future. The only sane explanations for cutting Sitton are that he had become or was about to become so toxic that you don't want him around the team (I'm talking about Terrell Owens-level distraction), or he was caught in the hot tub with the babysitter, or you discover that he is a PED pipeline into the lockerroom.

[Harlan Huckleby]

the 2 sources could be TT and M3 and they feel that way because sitton didn't wave to TT on saturday when he passed him in the parking lot

The Crimson Curmudgeon strikes again.

[Rutnstrut]

Here is something nobody has suggested yet (and which is therefore either completely ridiculous or brilliantly on point). Sitton got cut because the Packers got word from the NFL home office that he was implicated in the PED scandal. Hey, it came just two weeks after the Matthews/Peppers interviews, so we at least have chronological proximity. My hypothesis has the added benefit that it accounts for the general befuddlement of his teammates: nobody saw it coming because nobody knew he was juicing.

That would have been known to any team he tried to catch on with. If true he would still be unemployed, not signed to a very lucrative contract.

[Patler]

Tauscher with Wilde reminded me of something I had forgotten. Last year Sitton had been quite critical about play calling as a guest on several shows and in discussions for several weeks. Finally in his own interview, MM somewhat angrily said Josh Sitton needed to worry about playing left guard, and quit complaining about play calling. Tauscher's comment reminded me that at the time I thought MM sounded quite pissed, and I wondered if it would be a factor in him resigning with GB. I kind of dismissed it because MM came across as very irritated most of the second half of the season.

Maybe Sitton irritated MM more than we realize.

[pbmax]

^ Well now I am on Sitton's side.

[texaspackerbacker]

I doubt there is anything to the Sitton/PEDs thing.

I'm gonna just take McCarthy at his word - he sees some positions as less of a priority money-wise than others. In other words, Sitton wanted too much money. I have thought for a long time that the Packer O Line is overrated. What I see is Aaron Rodgers needing to escape the pass rush - and generally doing so very successfully - no thanks to mediocre O Linemen getting too much credit. Whatever success we have in run blocking also is related to Rodgers' escapability and passing - and often (although not always often enough for me) a pass first mentality which sets up other teams' D for running plays.

I don't think very highly of Lane Taylor, but I'm glad it's him rather than Barclay getting the start.

Losing Sitton ain't gonna hurt much. It's a 50/50 question IMO whether he does much to help the Bears. Either way, I don't see the Bears as being any threat.

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Tauscher with Wilde reminded me of something I had forgotten. Last year Sitton had been quite critical about play calling as a guest on several shows and in discussions for several weeks. Finally in his own interview, MM somewhat angrily said Josh Sitton needed to worry about playing left guard, and quit complaining about play calling. Tauscher's comment reminded me that at the time I thought MM sounded quite pissed, and I wondered if it would be a factor in him resigning with GB. I kind of dismissed it because MM came across as very irritated most of the second half of the season.

Maybe Sitton irritated MM more than we realize.

then the cut shoulda/woulda happened much sooner

and everyone and their mother was critical of the playcalling last year

[Harlan Huckleby]

Maybe Sitton irritated MM more than we realize.

If this is the reason then it counts as a major fail by MM. Sitton has reportedly been cantankerous his whole career. MM should have found a way to deal with his irritation short of handing a good player to a division rival. MM put his own comfort ahead of the team. The team was fine with Sitton.

[hoosier]

And for just that reason it cannot be the reason. That would be cutting off his nose to spite his face. Even if McCarthy were that impulsive and a slave of his own emotions, which I don't believe for a minute, no way would TT let him follow through on it.

[King Friday]

I don't believe for a second that Sitton was cut due to something that happened last season...or else they would've cut him LAST SEASON. There was no reason to wait until the last days of camp to make this move if you knew you were going to do it 8 months ago.

I do believe that when it came time to evaluate the roster spots available for this year, hard choices had to be made. When it comes down to hard choices, little things can suddenly matter FAR MORE than usual. In this case, the negative association Sitton's gripes had put an additional mark against him that, when combined with other negatives such as the likelihood of his departure after the season in free agency and relative importance of his position, added up to the final tally to vote him off the island.

His attitude/griping did not lead to his cutting...but they also did not score points for Sitton in terms of making the final roster over other guys who the team also wanted to keep, and probably made it difficult for the decision makers to make the choice in his favor when all things were laid bare for evaluation.

[pbmax]

Bill Michels has been unreliable in the past. Not sure what his recent record has been. Don't listen regularly.