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I think the plan is for Spriggs to play LT. When the Packers drafted Bakhtiari, a lot of people had him projected as a Guard even though he played LT at Colorado. He had to play LT because Bulaga blew out his knee on Family Night. I think the lineup could be Spriggs/Bakhtiari/Linsley or Tretter/Lang/Bulaga.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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That's possible, Joe. Bahk has been a solid NFL LT. That's gonna be hard to beat. I could see Spriggs being the swing tackle for a couple years or taking a spot. Bahk is in his prime starting right now. Let's see what he's got.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostI think the plan is for Spriggs to play LT. When the Packers drafted Bakhtiari, a lot of people had him projected as a Guard even though he played LT at Colorado. He had to play LT because Bulaga blew out his knee on Family Night. I think the lineup could be Spriggs/Bakhtiari/Linsley or Tretter/Lang/Bulaga.
And Bulaga has never been healthy. Spriggs might just be insurance for whichever tackle can't stay healthy.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Originally posted by red View Postno, the overwhelming majority of packers are not over the age of 30
and i would guess the big reason why a lot of guys wouldn't be the the nfl by 30 has to do with $$$$$$$$$, not old age
if you have a 30 year of fringe player that you would have to pay the vet minimum of around a million bucks, your probably gonna replace his with a rookie fringe player who will make a third of thatThis is factually not true. Most players are out of the league and retired from the NFL by 30.around 35 is when most players drop off, NOT 30
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Regarding the age conversation, 7 Packers out of 53 are 30+.
This is possible. I'm not sure what Bakhtiari's market will be. He's been a starting LT, but I'm not sure if he's considered to be a really good one. I think Spriggs is a more natural LT. One out of Bakhtiari/Tretter/Lang/Bulaga will be gone next year. It could be Bulaga if he has another injury-filled year. I think you could see a couple of guys get contract extensions later this year once the Packers decide which guys they want to go with.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostI am tellin' ya... Bahktiari is walking after this season if he isn't the starting left tackle for the foreseeable future. The difference in money between good guards and good tackles is gigantic.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Originally posted by JustinHarrell View PostYou guys, it's gonna be fine. Sitton is on the down slope. Taylor is ascending. The Packers like Taylor.
We moved on fine without Brett Favre. We'll be OK without Josh Sitton. Especially when Lindsley comes back, we're young and two deep, maybe 3 if you count spriggs, who had a decent enough showing. Give him a couple more months in the weight room and fresh legs and he might hold up if he gets tossed in too.
This year is Super Bowl or Bust; no good reason from what I can see to not bring him back for one more year and let him leave in style unless TWT thinks we can win a Super Bowl w/o Josh Sitton
Let the results speak for themselvesTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Lane Taylor has really not played that wellOriginally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostI am tellin' ya... Bahktiari is walking after this season if he isn't the starting left tackle for the foreseeable future. The difference in money between good guards and good tackles is gigantic.
I can't imagine MM and TWT thinking they can last a season with him as the starterTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I don't much like Lane Taylor either. About the only thing you can say about him his he is better than Barclay. I don't much like Bakhtiari either - better than his first year, but not up to the standard of a good NFL O Lineman. None of them are remotely close to star-quality, and that includes Sitton.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, almost every time our all world QB drops back, he is running for his life. Fortunately, he does that extremely well and hits his targets like nobody else. No thanks to the O Line, though. Run blocking hasn't IMO been a helluva lot better either, especially when they need to just line up and push people back rather than hitting them by surprise when the D is geared for the passing game. I think THAT scenario had a lot to do with McCarthy saying "some positions are more important than others ....." and the team letting Sitton go instead of negotiating a big contract extension for him.
I guess that still doesn't explain cutting Sitton instead of squeezing one more year out of his old contract. Maybe he hit the team with a hold out threat a week before the season was to start, who knows.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Originally posted by Bretsky View PostThis year is Super Bowl or Bust; no good reason from what I can see to not bring him back for one more year and let him leave in style unless TWT thinks we can win a Super Bowl w/o Josh Sitton
Let the results speak for themselvesThese two statements considered in light of the Packers history dealing with starters and older players nearing the ends of their contracts have me convinced that things we are unaware of or do not fully appreciate caused the release of Sitton in the way it happened.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostLane Taylor has really not played that well
I can't imagine MM and TWT thinking they can last a season with him as the starter
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He didn't do much once he went to Dallas either if memory serves after he hurt his back. He did come back and retire a Packer too so he couldn't have been too upset with us.Originally posted by pbmax View PostWasn't Rivera the one they tried to keep, since they had to release Wahle anyway and Rivera would be more cost effective?
I thought he nearly doubled his GB offer with Dallas when a bidding war broke out? I think he is leaving a few key facts out. There is no way the Packers would bring him back on the contract he signed with Dallas.
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Yet, it is required. The Packers have spent more than the basic salary cap every year for the last 4 or 5 years. Their "carryover" cap dollars from the previous year has been declining every year.Originally posted by red View Postbecause of money, not old age
33 out of our 53 guys are on there first contract
that is by choice and that is because of money
This is the current state of the NFL generally, not just the Packers. Fewer and fewer contracts are using up increasing proportions of the salary cap, requiring that a substantial part of the roster be filled with salary controlled players on their first contracts. The union might want to reconsider the veteran salary cap if they want more veterans in the league.
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IF we can keep Bak next year. FA LTs get paid so this is prob why we traded up to draft Spriggs. It will be interesting to see if we can extend him before he becomes a FA.Originally posted by JustinHarrell View PostNext year it will probably be Bahktiari-Taylor-Lindsley-Tretter-Bulaga with Spriggs, Murphy and a draft pick and who knows what else coming off the bench. It's time to move on.
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Going into 2015 I wouldn't have predicted that Bakhtiari would get an elite LT type of contract. Decent, but not special. Now, I'm not sure. Apparently he was absolutely dominating in one on one drills in camp. I have also read that he has quietly overcome the two limitations he had coming out of college, size and strength. He was under 300 lbs at the combine, and even less than that in college. He is listed at 310 now, but I have read he is actually at closer to 320, with a lot of added muscle since his rookie year. One article mentioned he was ready for a breakout type of year last year, but he fought injuries all year right from training camp. He was even questionable for game one and never was that healthy at anytime in 2015.Originally posted by Pugger View PostIF we can keep Bak next year. FA LTs get paid so this is prob why we traded up to draft Spriggs. It will be interesting to see if we can extend him before he becomes a FA.
This will be an interesting season for Bakhtiari.
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He pitched a shutout in camp until the very end in one on one pass protection.Originally posted by Patler View PostGoing into 2015 I wouldn't have predicted that Bakhtiari would get an elite LT type of contract. Decent, but not special. Now, I'm not sure. Apparently he was absolutely dominating in one on one drills in camp. I have also read that he has quietly overcome the two limitations he had coming out of college, size and strength. He was under 300 lbs at the combine, and even less than that in college. He is listed at 310 now, but I have read he is actually at closer to 320, with a lot of added muscle since his rookie year. One article mentioned he was ready for a breakout type of year last year, but he fought injuries all year right from training camp. He was even questionable for game one and never was that healthy at anytime in 2015.
This will be an interesting season for Bakhtiari.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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