Packers Offensive Line - Now and Going Forward

[Bossman641]

and i say theres still a good chance we lose both bahk and lang because of the way the sitton deal went down

they seem to be the closest to him. and bahk might be the guy the "cancer" already started to spread to

they can make just as much, if not more in free agency as they would in green bay. so if they are pissed at management and/or coaches talking shit about their friend after he's cut, then maybe they decide to look elsewhere

what he sitton tells them about how well he's treated and how much he made in FIBland?

Isn't Sitton making basically the same in Chicago as he is in GB? While playing for a substantially worse team?

If Lang and Bakh are pissed because a teammate got cut then we have bigger problems then losing Josh Sitton.

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Isn't Sitton making basically the same in Chicago as he is in GB? While playing for a substantially worse team?

If Lang and Bakh are pissed because a teammate got cut then we have bigger problems then losing Josh Sitton.

sitton would have made 5.9 million this year i think

in chicago he'll get 6.75 million this year

and if you now think the team treated a friend like a pile of shit, why would you stay? if i feel a fellow employee is treated like shit, i'm gonna start to think about leaving myself

oh, and i don't believe for a second that players care as much about winning as us fans do. thats just a joke to think that. they make the same money no matter if they win 2 games or 16. and you don't make much, if any more money by goin g to the playoffs and the super bowl. i think you're pretty much playing for free

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm not a big fan of Taylor. It was big downgrade for this year, and I'm leaning towards hoping he's not a part of the future plans. I doubt this is their plan, but if they can resign Lang to a relatively reasonable 3yr deal, I'd do it. I liked Lang long-term more than Sitton before Sitton was released. In fact, I think Lang was better last year, and I think he'll be better going forward. I'm hopeful for a Spriggs, Linsley, Tretter, Lang, and Bulaga OL next year. Murphy as the backup outside with Taylor as the backup inside. Bakh is solid, but I think he'll ask for more than we're willing to pay and we drafted Spriggs to replace him. The money saved from cutting Sitton does free up money to sign another player they would have otherwise not been able to afford, but I'm not sure it will be all on the OL. More likely, it will be used to sign somebody like Ha Ha to a long-term deal.

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I'm not a big fan of Taylor. It was big downgrade for this year, and I'm leaning towards hoping he's not a part of the future plans. I doubt this is their plan, but if they can resign Lang to a relatively reasonable 3yr deal, I'd do it. I liked Lang long-term more than Sitton before Sitton was released. In fact, I think Lang was better last year, and I think he'll be better going forward. I'm hopeful for a Spriggs, Linsley, Tretter, Lang, and Bulaga OL next year. Murphy as the backup outside with Taylor as the backup inside. Bakh is solid, but I think he'll ask for more than we're willing to pay and we drafted Spriggs to replace him. The money saved from cutting Sitton does free up money to sign another player they would have otherwise not been able to afford, but I'm not sure it will be all on the OL. More likely, it will be used to sign somebody like Ha Ha to a long-term deal.

and theres that, if bahk is expecting 8-10 million, you let him go. no way is he worth that imo

i do think he was the weak link on the line before sitton got canned

[run pMc]

Spriggs at OT, Murphy at RT or RG...if Bahk wants $10M he'll have to look elsewhere. He's a good but not great player, but unless Spriggs is garbage the team has leverage with a replacement on the 53.
I like Trettter and the coaches love him but where does he fit? Is he the backup C-T and Murphy backs up both G spots? I don't see them keeping Bahk, Tretter and Lang. I don't think they want to lose Lang after the Sitton debacle, plus I think he ends up setting the tone for the youngsters.

Lucas Patrick played all camp with a club on a broken hand and didn't miss a practice, so with two working hands you'd think he'd be a flippin' All Pro. Take that, Janis.

I will say this: they are better stocked with talent than when Wahle and Rivera left. I don't expect a dropoff on the OL next year. Wait, why am I thinking about next year? Ugh.

[Joemailman]

and theres that, if bahk is expecting 8-10 million, you let him go. no way is he worth that imo

i do think he was the weak link on the line before sitton got canned

Right now the 10th highest paid LT makes 10 mil. 16th highest makes 7 mil. Not sure where teams will rank Bakhtiari.

[vince]

Unless his back issue gets worse as the season wears on or some other injury happens, I think Bakh will command $10 mil next year and be gone. He's just entering his prime, he's a lot stronger this year and a very solid left tackle - a prized commodity. People suggesting he's a weak link are offbase in my opinion.

Spriggs - Taylor/Murphy - Linsley - Tretter - Bulaga

Tretter can handle NT's at Center. They can get him on a workout/diet regimen and bulk up in the offseason. Have him hang out with Lacy for a few months - or Mike Neal maybe.

[vince]

Even if he's somewhere between 10 and 16 Joe, he's young, ascending, and at such a valued position - he's gonna get paid I think.

At minimum, I'd say someone's going to pay far more than Ted will or should - at least assuming Spriggs develops as projected. No need to pay $10 mil for a guy when you have another guy just as good (or close to it) for far, far less.

Like Harv said, use the money to pay Cook, Dix, and based on early returns this year, Perry and Jones. I wouldn't have guessed I'd be arguing that a year or two ago...

[pbmax]

I just don't see Tretter at Guard. He is the clone of Flanagan. Center and Left Tackle.

I think they try Linsley at Guard.

[RashanGary]

There are a lot of interesting ideas..... I like Bahk and think the odds of Spriggs being good at that position are slim. I'd rather see Spriggs take two years to groom, come off the bench for whoevers hurt, then replace Bulaga.

[vince]

There are a lot of interesting ideas..... I like Bahk and think the odds of Spriggs being good at that position are slim. I'd rather see Spriggs take two years to groom, come off the bench for whoevers hurt, then replace Bulaga.

Yeah based on what we know so far about Spriggs that's hard to argue with. I like Bakh too. He won't come cheap.

[vince]

I just don't see Tretter at Guard. He is the clone of Flanagan. Center and Left Tackle.

I think they try Linsley at Guard.

Yeah perhaps. Both Linsley and Tretter have injury histories building up now too. I could see Lang re-signing because he won't command what Bakh will and Ted might find that more palatable given the pretty long list of upcoming free agents on both sides of the ball.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Bahk reportedly added 15 pounds of muscle, correcting his shortcoming, and is looking to be an elite LT.

[Patler]

oh, and i don't believe for a second that players care as much about winning as us fans do. thats just a joke to think that. they make the same money no matter if they win 2 games or 16. and you don't make much, if any more money by goin g to the playoffs and the super bowl. i think you're pretty much playing for free

Very true. For many pro athletes, the sport they play is not even the one they are most passionate about, it just happens to be the one they were the best at, or had the opportunities for at the right time. I've known NHL players who wanted their names on the Stanley Cup, but were very much satisfied missing the playoffs because they really wanted to get to the off season and away from hockey for a while. (Of course, the NHL playoffs can be agonizingly long, taking a lot out of players both physically and emotionally, which some would just as soon avoid.) It really is just a job for many athletes, just like the jobs many of us have had, a job they enjoy doing and are good at, but other things in their lives are much, much more important.

Then, too, their careers are short and their commitment to a team via a contract is even shorter. A big contract with a bad team is simply a means to an end. A chance to have things for the rest of their lives lives that they never thought they could have, all for just a few years in their careers.

[Patler]

I just don't see Tretter at Guard. He is the clone of Flanagan. Center and Left Tackle.

I think they try Linsley at Guard.

I have suggested that several times since the Sitton and Lang contracts became hot topics, and have been told routinely that Linsley is not a guard. I will admit that I really don't know, but it just seems to me that between the two, Linsley and Tretter, Linsley seems more suited to guard than Tretter does.