More Banjo: Week 2 @ Minnesota

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That INT was a bad throw. It was thrown behind Adams. He had to reach back for it. If it's thrown correctly, I don't think Waynes can get to it without another PI penalty. http://www.packers.com/media-center/...b-a90f0e7b381a

Its Adams, you sure he was where he was supposed to be? At this point I don't know who to trust.

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Duplicated from another thread.

Scott Kacsmar @FO_ScottKacsmar 43m43 minutes ago
Maybe the best comparison I can offer for Rodgers is Brett Favre in 1999-2000. The high level of play did return after that.

The Good Tweet Guy @SportsTalkJoe
@FO_ScottKacsmar ironically 99-00 were favres 8-9 years as a starter just like 15-16 are years 8-9 as a starter for Rodgers

[HarveyWallbangers]

That INT was a bad throw. It was thrown behind Adams.

I agree. That is on Rodgers. Good play by Waynes. He had been burned by the slant all night, so it's surprising that he didn't sit on that route. If Rodgers gets it over the top more, Adams has a chance for a big play.

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If I had to bet, Peterson hurt his knee when his right leg planted hard into the turf while extended. Not when Holy Fackrell rolled over his ankle.

[Pugger]

The last stat and not kicking the FG were the difference in the game.

[Pugger]

Yeah. We need an immunity to iocane powder.

He did adjust in the second half. Went two TE to good effect. Rodgers looked better for the most part in the second half. Liked some of his run calls. While I usually hate that pitch/toss play, they actually got some yardage out of it eventually (though I don't know why they don't put Lacy through the middle more). I hope someone adds up yardage on toss plays because while not my favorite, this might have been one of that plays better games.

But even better than the pitch was some action they ran off of it. Starks best run was essentially off a pitch but went off tackle with trap or pull blocks. Was quite nice.

Cook blows a first down on the first drive in the second half that stated out well. That plus penalties an 3 lost turnovers make for a tough night.

And Randall was too leaky to keep the Vikes under 17 points.

I can think of one instance where Cook fell on a lose ball after AR got stripped in the backfield.

[vince]

Tough game.

A-Rod wasn't sharp at all. Overthrows, underthrows, fumbles, not being on the same page with Jordy yet.
Jordy doesn't have his burst back yet, and it might be awhile.
I'm not sure what kind of WR rotation we should see because Jordy and Adams need to be in there to gain consistency, but the inconsistency is problematic. It's early but that was frustrating to watch. Somehow Abby and Monty need to work into it and Davis needs to provide some deep threat. The pieces aren't working yet.

Defense looked good across the board with the glaring exception of Randall. Bradford put some balls on the money but he got put in his place last night. I thought the PI call that sealed the game was ticky-tack though.

If you'd have said the Packers would shut down Peterson like they did I'd have said the Vikes had no chance. Bradford and Diggs were the difference. I already don't like Diggs and unfortunately that's good on him. Fifth round pick? That sucks because without him the Vikes are inept on O.

I thought McCarthy should have kicked the field goal to get the tie but they still had their chances down the stretch so that wasn't the game there.

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Too many errors, too much inconsistency on offense. Poor strategy for containing Diggs once it was clear Randall could not handle him in single coverage.

[call_me_ishmael]

Why keep 7 receivers if you're only going to play three consistently? Monty and Abby have shown they can get open!

[vince]

Too many errors, too much inconsistency on offense. Poor strategy for containing Diggs once it was clear Randall could not handle him in single coverage.

Yeah. Though in my opinion there's a tendency for us fans to blame coaching more than is warranted when players don't execute. Randall got beat like a drum. He needs to do his job better. It's awfully tough to scheme your way out of your best cover corner getting beat on the perimeter.

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I do think there is some coaching blame, but its not the entire picture. Capers had a safety back and they didn't have multiple threats downfield but Ha-Ha wasn't close enough to help Randall.

McCarthy has made some adjustments. But the offense is still not running smoothly. This quote form Doug Farrar still applies to the offense we have seen in the last two weeks:

The more you look at them, the more you see how unhelpful Green Bay’s route concepts are for Rodgers. Aside from the occasional rub or stack formation, you don’t see a lot of stuff designed to present Rodgers with an easy open read, or his receivers with schemed formation advantages. Green Bay’s passing game seems designed to succeed three ways this year: Rodgers throwing deep off of free plays after he’s fooled the defense into jumping offside, extending plays outside of structure and exploiting one-on-one iso matchups.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/11/10/all-22-aaron-rodgers-packers-mike-mccarthy

Now, McCarthy has changed on the first point. He ran new personnel groups out there (two TEs, though perhaps not enough) and ran receivers out of a bunch a number of times. But only two throws to Cook and one to Rodgers threatened the middle of the field. So a lot of the offense was off broken containment, penalties and going after one on one matchups they aren't winning.

[hoosier]

Tough game.

A-Rod wasn't sharp at all.....

How many times have we said that over the past 12 months? Since the 2015 bye week the Packers are, what, 5-7? The out of sync, unsharp, inefficient offense has become the new normal. We need to stop saying they look out of sync. They are in sync, or as in sync as they are going to get. For some reason they just aren't very good any more.

[Maxie the Taxi]

How many times have we said that over the past 12 months? Since the 2015 bye week the Packers are, what, 5-7? The out of sync, unsharp, inefficient offense has become the new normal. We need to stop saying they look out of sync. They are in sync, or as in sync as they are going to get. For some reason they just aren't very good any more.

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If being "in sync" is so important, why fritter away the opportunity to get "in sync" by sitting Arod the entire preseason? It sure is getting hard to tell the difference between a team out of sync and one that just ain't very good anymore?

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+1

If being "in sync" is so important, why fritter away the opportunity to get "in sync" by sitting Arod the entire preseason? It sure is getting hard to tell the difference between a team out of sync and one that just ain't very good anymore?

exactly

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If in sync was the problem, the problem would disappear with more Games and it did not last year.

It also does not explain starting out very hot at the beginning of 2015 on offense.