Do we have a Rodgers problem?

[gbgary]

rodgers problem? maybe a little. he's off a bit but guys aren't getting open either. EVERYONE is playing us tight press coverage. we used to eat defenses up cuz they'd play a lot of zone or give us space in man. defenses respected our guy's abilities. not so much now. our guys have to fight to get open cuz their being grabbed and pulled the whole time. on the opposite side of the ball our DBs are letting guys run free.

[Rutnstrut]

I think Denver's experience with Manning is instructive. Realizing Manning's decline in some areas of his game, Denver reworked their offense to accommodate Manning. If GB keeps chalking up Arod's decline to being out of sync, receivers not getting open, bad execution, there is no reason to change the offensive approach. You can't solve a problem if you don't tell it like it is.

Well that's simple, Denver has far better coaching and front office people.

[Rutnstrut]

rodgers problem? maybe a little. he's off a bit but guys aren't getting open either. EVERYONE is playing us tight press coverage. we used to eat defenses up cuz they'd play a lot of zone or give us space in man. defenses respected our guy's abilities. not so much now. our guys have to fight to get open cuz their being grabbed and pulled the whole time. on the opposite side of the ball our DBs are letting guys run free.

Good teams adjust to other teams adjustments. They have had plenty of time to do this.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Rodgers is still in his QB prime, this talk of easing him out is silly. Comparisons to bygone eras is even more inappropriate. Rodgers is a fitness nut, trained far beyond the old schoolers. QBs today are protected like teenage virgin daughters. 40 will soon be the new 32.

[gbgary]

Good teams adjust to other teams adjustments. They have had plenty of time to do this.

exactly. that's my point. coaches aren't making adjustments.

[hoosier]

rodgers problem? maybe a little. he's off a bit but guys aren't getting open either. EVERYONE is playing us tight press coverage. we used to eat defenses up cuz they'd play a lot of zone or give us space in man. defenses respected our guy's abilities. not so much now. our guys have to fight to get open cuz their being grabbed and pulled the whole time. on the opposite side of the ball our DBs are letting guys run free.

Are they getting open less than in 2009-14? I agree, on TV they certainly don't look very open, but don't assume it's all on the receivers. It used to be that Rodgers would "throw receivers open," fitting the ball into impossibly tight windows or throwing behind a well-covered receiver. His passes don't do that anymore. The receivers may be very average, but I am more and more convinced that the major problem with the GB offense is behind the center.

[Harlan Huckleby]

PS. Even Peyton Manning and Tom Brady played mostly in era when QBs could get hit. It's only going to get more gentle in coming decade.

[hoosier]

Rodgers is still in his QB prime, this talk of easing him out is silly. Comparisons to bygone eras is even more inappropriate. Rodgers is a fitness nut, trained far beyond the old schoolers. QBs today are protected like teenage virgin daughters. 40 will soon be the new 32.

Then why is his QB play so mediocre over the last 12 games?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Then why is his QB play so mediocre over the last 12 games?

Hard to say. His arm is as strong as ever. He scrambles as well as ever. He has lost confidence and timing. Don't know how much of that is his fault.

[hoosier]

Hard to say. His arm is as strong as ever. He scrambles as well as ever. He has lost confidence and timing. Don't know how much of that is his fault.

He has lost accuracy too. I wonder if it's partly mechanics.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Instead, he might be in the same club as the soon to be 33 year old Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, Dan Fouts and Jim Kelly were in, within not too many years of the ends of their careers. Some, but not all that may QBs still play well at 38, 39 and older. Warren Moon, Brett Favre and Tom Brady are not the norm, and to be perfectly objective, we do not yet know if the 39 year old Tom Brady will be the same as the 38 year old Tom Brady. I think it was Jim Kelly who said for him and many other QBs he talked to, the beginning of the end happened quickly, over an off season. Things were fine when he left, when he came back the following season things just didn't "click" the same, and never did thereafter.

It's a new era. With how guys train and with the rules protecting QBs it seems QBs are much more able to play into their late 30s then in the old days. Rodgers looks good physically. I think he acquired some bad habits last year, and he needs to work on correcting them.

[Harlan Huckleby]

He has lost accuracy too. I wonder if it's partly mechanics.

Ya, I meant timing and accuracy to be same thing.

Bradford has looked fantastic at times and mediocre for stretches. QB play is in the head. Yoko Ono theory should be revisited.

[Patler]

Rodgers is still in his QB prime, this talk of easing him out is silly. Comparisons to bygone eras is even more inappropriate. Rodgers is a fitness nut, trained far beyond the old schoolers. QBs today are protected like teenage virgin daughters. 40 will soon be the new 32.

Funny that for most of the last 20 or so games, he has not played like a QB in his prime. QB performance is not always tied to physical condition or physical ability. To think that a player is or will continue to be in his prime just because he is a fitness nut is silly. We have been talking about and seeing "uncharacteristic" inaccuracy from Rodgers too long for it to be just a temporary thing. It has now spanned an off season. That should be telling him and the coaching staff that something is wrong and needs to be fixed. It is beyond the time that they should hope for it to fix itself.

No one is talking about easy him out now, and no one is saying definitively that it will be time to move on in two years. However, something needs to be fixed, or we can expect more of what we have seen for most of the last 20 games or so, hesitancy to throw on rhythm or timing into tight windows, only doing so on the move after extending plays, an increased occurrence of inaccuracy on all his throws, etc. We also can not be blind to the fact that AR is no longer a young QB. He very easily could be within his last 5 years. Perhaps the last 2 or 3 of those years shouldn't be in GB, IF AND ONLY IF Hundley proves to be a worthy successor during the next two preseasons. If there isn't a worthy successor, you ride Rodgers as long as you can, but maybe 2019 should be the start of the next QB era in GB.

[RashanGary]

It is all Yoko's fucking fault.

He played like shit, but he looked like a faggy male model after the game. Might have some problems with his priorities. Yoko might be crying for attention, saying he cares more about his job than her. And then he tries to be a hero and make her important and now he's a douche bag who can't play good football. But he's pretty and he does whatever yoko asks.

[Clayish]

Rodgers won the MVP while dating her. Invalid argument.