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  • Punting performance

    I have seen lots of people already demanding the head of our new punter. While I know he had a bad one at an inopportune time, he does have some things in his favor (based on a very small sample size):

    - at 40.3 yards, his net average is 14th in the league.
    - his net average is 0.1 more than Masthay's team record from last year
    - of his 9 punts, only one has been returned, compared to 41 of 81 for Masthay last year.

  • #2
    They're right to focus on net average since that's the bottom line. The perception thar he's not getting it done is widespread. Not great but above average and forcing no return. He's not quite as precise with the pooch inside the 20 as hopefully he'll get but better than masthay at a third of the cost is a net gain. Thanks for bringing the facts patler.

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    • #3
      Right now I am a little worried about the variation. He was booming them in Jacksonville. He hit one 44 yarder in Minnesota but averaged 38.6 overall.

      In Jax, it was 46/56.

      I wonder if Zook ordered a Code Red (directional kicking) more in the 2nd game.
      Last edited by pbmax; 09-20-2016, 08:29 AM.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #4
        Sunday, he just looked shaky, not confident.

        He boomed 'em outside in Jax, then looked tentative indoors in Minny.

        He makes ya nervous.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KYPack View Post
          Sunday, he just looked shaky, not confident.

          He boomed 'em outside in Jax, then looked tentative indoors in Minny.

          He makes ya nervous.
          i didn't really notice that. i'm good with no returns. no complaints from me.

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          • #6
            He's no Derrick Frost or B.J. Sander, but let's be patient.
            "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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            • #7
              Punting is the least of our concerns right now.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                Punting is the least of our concerns right now.
                Yeah but field position is.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #9
                  He boomed them in Jacksonville when against a team whose special teams ranked 20th in dvoa last year. The vikings ranked 4th in dvoa last year. I expected our special teams to be worse last week, so one shank is forgivable. However this guy is new so lets hope he improves.

                  As an aside, I realize dvoa is not the be all end all but it is a far better judge of special teams ability than I am.
                  All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                  George Orwell

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Right now I am a little worried about the variation. He was booming them in Jacksonville. He hit one 44 yarder in Minnesota but averaged 38.6 overall.

                    In Jax, it was 46/56.

                    I wonder if Zook ordered a Code Red (directional kicking) more in the 2nd game.

                    I think they were concerned about MN's return game, and on the opposite side it seemed almost that Hyde was under instructions to fair catch, regardless. His calls were often very early, and a couple were made without a lot of coverage pressure in his face. It looked like they didn't want to take any chances.

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                    • #11
                      I have a theory that anybody who participants in a thread about punting is a loser. Scanning through, I'm standing firm with my bias. Just how I feel about it.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                        I have a theory that anybody who participants in a thread about punting is a loser. Scanning through, I'm standing firm with my bias. Just how I feel about it.
                        Nice to see you in this thread HH. Your participation is always welcomed!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Patler View Post
                          Nice to see you in this thread HH. Your participation is always welcomed!
                          I would never join a club that would have me as a member.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rastak View Post
                            I would never join a club that would have me as a member.
                            Well, you left your Marx.
                            "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              Yeah but field position is.
                              Right on.

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