Official Week 3 Other Games Thread

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I absolutely loathe New England for many reasons, but one thing I have to admit that's become painfully clear is that Belichick can game plan, scheme, and coach circles around Stubby. It never seems to matter who's out for them or which Fuckdoggle players of the week they're using, they always find ways to be competitive and they end up winning a lot of games that on paper they shouldn't.

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I absolutely loathe New England for many reasons, but one thing I have to admit that's become painfully clear is that Belichick can game plan, scheme, and coach circles around Stubby. It never seems to matter who's out for them or which Fuckdoggle players of the week they're using, they always find ways to be competitive and they end up winning a lot of games that on paper they shouldn't.

Don't forget that this is the AFC. And the Texans are objectively terrible. Osweiler is not good and Watt is hurt. Their secondary is worse now than it was when it was the weak link on an otherwise good defense.

The Texans play in the AFC South, which makes everyone seem on the brink of the playoffs so they are consistently considered one or two guys away.

[SMBASS]

Don't forget that this is the AFC. And the Texans are objectively terrible. Osweiler is not good and Watt is hurt. Their secondary is worse now than it was when it was the weak link on an otherwise good defense.

The Texans play in the AFC South, which makes everyone seem on the brink of the playoffs so they are consistently considered one or two guys away.

I know pb but he has a history of doing it over and over again...year after year. He just knows how to put a game plan together that plays to the strength of his team regardless of who in the hell he has available to play. It's not just this game by any measure. I've been watching him do this for a long time. They supposedly didn't have any chance when they went to Arizona for the first game either. He's not afraid to change the damn game plan every week if he has to if it gives his team the best chance to be competitive and win. He just doesn't sit there and continue to try to pound a square peg into a round hole no matter how many times it fails like so many other coaches do.

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I know pb but he has a history of doing it over and over again...year after year. He just knows how to put a game plan together that plays to the strength of his team regardless of who in the hell he has available to play. It's not just this game by any measure. I've been watching him do this for a long time. They supposedly didn't have any chance when they went to Arizona for the first game either. He's not afraid to change the damn game plan every week if he has to if it gives his team the best chance to be competitive and win. He just doesn't sit there and continue to try to pound a square peg into a round hole no matter how many times it fails like so many other coaches do.

He did make his offense functional. But by the time they took a 20 point lead, the net yards for both teams were nearly equal. At that point it was a field position and special teams game. Which he was also winning.

Which is simply a long way of saying, he doesn't work miracles, but he doesn't leave any stone unturned either. He went through a long stretch where he could not draft to rebuild his D, but he has fixed that in the last couple of years. Its no mistake they got another Lombardi after that happened.

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He did make his offense functional. But by the time they took a 20 point lead, the net yards for both teams were nearly equal. At that point it was a field position and special teams game. Which he was also winning.

Which is simply a long way of saying, he doesn't work miracles, but he doesn't leave any stone unturned either. He went through a long stretch where he could not draft to rebuild his D, but he has fixed that in the last couple of years. Its no mistake they got another Lombardi after that happened.

I agree that he makes a lot of GM decisions that leave you scratching your head and I don't think he's necessarily one of the best in that capacity but strictly as a coach, he sure knows how to get the best out of whatever players he has a available and how to change the emphasis of his game plan from week to week depending on who they are playing. (Using Te's heavy, running heavy, short passing game, using backs as receivers, long passing game, etc.) In addition, he's a pretty good defensive minded coach as well. It seems to me that he has a lot of planning input on both sides of the ball.

[Guiness]

I know pb but he has a history of doing it over and over again...year after year. He just knows how to put a game plan together that plays to the strength of his team regardless of who in the hell he has available to play. It's not just this game by any measure. I've been watching him do this for a long time. They supposedly didn't have any chance when they went to Arizona for the first game either. He's not afraid to change the damn game plan every week if he has to if it gives his team the best chance to be competitive and win. He just doesn't sit there and continue to try to pound a square peg into a round hole no matter how many times it fails like so many other coaches do.

Another thing he's done a couple of times that has impressed me is use WRs to fill in when he's out of CBs. He did it with Troy Brown, and again with Endleman. How screwed are other teams when they have to press their #4 CB into a starting roll? He goes to the other side of the ball, during a playoff game and find a guy who forces a fumble.

[Bretsky]

I agree that he makes a lot of GM decisions that leave you scratching your head and I don't think he's necessarily one of the best in that capacity but strictly as a coach, he sure knows how to get the best out of whatever players he has a available and how to change the emphasis of his game plan from week to week depending on who they are playing. (Using Te's heavy, running heavy, short passing game, using backs as receivers, long passing game, etc.) In addition, he's a pretty good defensive minded coach as well. It seems to me that he has a lot of planning input on both sides of the ball.

IT"S TIME TO MAKE A COLLECTIVE STRIKE AT HE NFL INEQUITY AND HURT HOODY GENIUS

Josh McDaniels- GB's next Head Coach
Overpay and take all of his top assistants to Green Bay

Strike Hard GB !!

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They beat the Texans! Its like beating Iowa!

[Maxie the Taxi]

The thing about Belichick is that he's ruthless as a GM, which mirrors his style as a coach. Players on the roster know they have to perform or they're gone -- no matter who they are. Vets coming to the team via trade or free agency know if they perform they'll not only stick, but play. And Belichick doesn't seem to pay attention to press clippings on particular players. He trusts his own judgement and is willing to take the flack.

Plus, there are certain player-types he's enamored with and he always has them. On defense he likes huge NT's. (He gets rid of Wilfork and acquires Alan Branch and drafts Vincent Valentine). He likes big, athletic LB's and heady DB's. On offense he always has a third down running back ala James White, a quick, sure-handed receiver who makes people miss AND he uses him regularly. He likes WR's ala Julian Edelman -- smallish, quick, smart, hard-nosed, fearless. Then again, he'll break his own rules when the opportunity arises and alter his approach based on the opportunity to get an exceptional talent (Randy Moss, for example).

Definitely one of the best HC's ever.

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How bad is the Texans D?

Seven O lineman blocking (that includes a TE), 3 receiver route, couldn't stop them.

[Pugger]

It'll be fun to play the Texans later on.

[King Friday]

They beat the Texans! Its like beating Iowa!

They beat them 27-0...with a third string QB...and with injuries to other key players too.

The Packers couldn't beat Houston 27-0 with everyone on the roster healthy...and would probably lose 27-0 if we went down to our 3rd string QB.

Belichick is simply way better than Stubby...and his players buy into the system, which seems to be something of an issue in Green Bay after the Sitton debacle.

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They beat them 27-0...with a third string QB...and with injuries to other key players too.

The Packers couldn't beat Houston 27-0 with everyone on the roster healthy...and would probably lose 27-0 if we went down to our 3rd string QB.

Belichick is simply way better than Stubby...and his players buy into the system, which seems to be something of an issue in Green Bay after the Sitton debacle.

That's because the coach has lost his offense and possibly his QB. Its not because McCarthy isn't a genius.

Just like the Packers stood to win that game without an inordinate amount of TOs and bad special teams play, the Patriots won going away because they did not turn it over and their special teams were very good.

When teams offenses are relatively equal in yardage gained, points are a result of field position more than any other factor.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

IT"S TIME TO MAKE A COLLECTIVE STRIKE AT HE NFL INEQUITY AND HURT HOODY GENIUS

Josh McDaniels- GB's next Head Coach
Overpay and take all of his top assistants to Green Bay

Strike Hard GB !!

J-Mac won't take the job unless Thompson retires or gets beheaded,.

No way in Hades J-Mac signs on to watch Thompson give birth to rookies year after year while hibernating during free agency and the regular season.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Belichick is simply way better than Stubby....

He's better than the Polar Bear, too.