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  • #16
    the answer for obj has been laid out for the league in the last several games. play him tight, play him physical, and he ends up doing more harm than good for his team.
    so...expect him to go off on the Packers because we don't play that style of pass d. we let the opposition run free. are the Packers dbs incapable of playing this way or is it on the coaching staff or both. either way if things don't change back there expect more of the same. making players of the week out of guys you've never heard of.
    the giants don't have a threatening running game so the Packers need to sell-out on pass d.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
      If the Giants team that showed up last night in MN shows up in GB on Sun night, we should kick the snot out of them. Giants were disorganized on both sides of the ball.
      Agreed. Especially considering we're coming off a bye week and the Giants played Monday night. ...On the other hand, Manning was subjected to a hellacious pass rush while Bradford not so much. Manning was throwing the ball into the dirt after 1 second. If we give Manning time to throw we could be in for a long night.
      One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
      John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pittstang5 View Post
        So is Pennel and the other CB back?
        I don't think they'll be back until next week.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by gbgary View Post
          the answer for obj has been laid out for the league in the last several games. play him tight, play him physical, and he ends up doing more harm than good for his team.
          so...expect him to go off on the Packers because we don't play that style of pass d. we let the opposition run free. are the Packers dbs incapable of playing this way or is it on the coaching staff or both. either way if things don't change back there expect more of the same. making players of the week out of guys you've never heard of.
          the giants don't have a threatening running game so the Packers need to sell-out on pass d.
          I believe our lack of aggression by our DBs is both coaching and the type of players we have. Of course it does seem like if we sneeze on a WR we get flagged for holding or PI...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
            Agreed. Especially considering we're coming off a bye week and the Giants played Monday night. ...On the other hand, Manning was subjected to a hellacious pass rush while Bradford not so much. Manning was throwing the ball into the dirt after 1 second. If we give Manning time to throw we could be in for a long night.
            We do possess a decent pass rush especially with Clay, D. Jones and Guion returning. It is our back end and our tendency to leave the middle of the field wide open is what kills us...

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            • #21
              The Packers' first team D should go against the Packers' first team O in practice.

              McAdoo pretty much runs McCarthy's offense. Watching the game last night, I could tell what the Gay Men of NY were gonna run before they ran it.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                We do possess a decent pass rush especially with Clay, D. Jones and Guion returning. It is our back end and our tendency to leave the middle of the field wide open is what kills us...
                So, for the scheme-niks here, what exactly is it that Packers are doing, or not doing in the secondary that is allowing the big plays? Is it schematic? Is it play calling? Is it blown coverage? Frustrating to think back to the MN game, and the front seven did their job, but the back end had no answers, and was consistently getting torched.

                Do you place that at Capers feet, are the players blowing coverages?
                "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                • #23
                  The Giants went on the road for a Monday night game. Now they are on the road in a short week against a team coming off a bye. This is unsporting. The NFL has lost its mind.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                    The Giants went on the road for a Monday night game. Now they are on the road in a short week against a team coming off a bye. This is unsporting. The NFL has lost its mind.
                    If I were a Gman fan I wouldn't worry about this week. They are going to play one of the worst pass defenses in the league Sunday night.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                      The Giants went on the road for a Monday night game. Now they are on the road in a short week against a team coming off a bye. This is unsporting. The NFL has lost its mind.
                      look what ind's doing. they're coming back from a loss in england and playing this weekend...it was their choice though.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                        If I were a Gman fan I wouldn't worry about this week. They are going to play one of the worst pass defenses in the league Sunday night.
                        However, the Packers do have a strong history of success coming off a bye week...the defense typically looks much better when they have an extra week to prepare.
                        It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                          If I were a Gman fan I wouldn't worry about this week. They are going to play one of the worst pass defenses in the league Sunday night.
                          Pugger, I will be at the game. It will be a victory.
                          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                          -Tim Harmston

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                            The Giants went on the road for a Monday night game. Now they are on the road in a short week against a team coming off a bye. This is unsporting. The NFL has lost its mind.
                            I was just thinking about this earlier today. The NFL should make sure that the road team on Monday night gets to play at home the next week.
                            But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                            -Tim Harmston

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                              If I were a Gman fan I wouldn't worry about this week. They are going to play one of the worst pass defenses in the league Sunday night.
                              Someone notify Pugger that Wist may have hacked into her account.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                                I was just thinking about this earlier today. The NFL should make sure that the road team on Monday night gets to play at home the next week.
                                I think they try to do what you suggest often...but putting together a schedule is very difficult, and especially so for the Giants and Jets. (who share a stadium)
                                It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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