OFFICIAL AARON THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Bretsky]

SOME STUNNING STATS PER ESPN RADIO I WAS LISTENING TOO ON AROD

QB Ranking - 20th in the NFL among starting QB's
Yards per game- 24th among staring QB's in the NFL
Yards per thrown- 27th amount starting QB's in the NFL

There was a bunch of other shit too. The point was .......we always used to say Aaron Rodgers isn't playing up to his standards. Right now that is out the window. He's a BELOW AVERAGE STARTER ...perhaps MARGINAL STARTING NFL QB

I fully expect him to bounce back.....but hopefully real soon !!

[King Friday]

This is my concern right now. The best evidence I have against it is Bill Cowher.

Not sure that is the greatest evidence either.

Yes, he won a Super Bowl near the end of his stint in Pittsburgh. You can't argue with that.

However, going deeper, he went to the playoffs each of his first 6 years as a head coach...with double digit wins all but one year, which was 9. Very strong early in his career.

His last 9 years as coach of the Steelers? Only 4 seasons where the team reached double digit wins and the playoffs. If he hadn't gotten Roethlisberger as a QB in those last few years to give the offense some kind of threat throwing the ball, I'm sure the ending would have mirrored many of the other coaches who stayed in one place too long.

[pbmax]

Not sure that is the greatest evidence either.

Yes, he won a Super Bowl near the end of his stint in Pittsburgh. You can't argue with that.

However, going deeper, he went to the playoffs each of his first 6 years as a head coach...with double digit wins all but one year, which was 9. Very strong early in his career.

His last 9 years as coach of the Steelers? Only 4 seasons where the team reached double digit wins and the playoffs. If he hadn't gotten Roethlisberger as a QB in those last few years to give the offense some kind of threat throwing the ball, I'm sure the ending would have mirrored many of the other coaches who stayed in one place too long.

His team was in need of a GM and there was a struggle in the front office between personnel and Cowher. They lost a lot of vets and the ones they kept were expensive. It was not perfect by any means. But he adapted with the times.

Another factor in a long term coach's favor is the roster turnover. Fewer long term vets around. Message might not be quite as stale.

[mission]

Packers offense will turn it around just enough for everyone to be back again next year so we can do it all over again.

[call_me_ishmael]

Packers offense will turn it around just enough for everyone to be back again next year so we can do it all over again.

That's what I think as well. My personal theory is Aaron must have gotten hurt pretty badly in that Denver game because he just hasn't been able to make the throws since. Mentally and physically he doesn't seem like the same player.

Sadly, I think if they continue to stink it up this year, coach MM is not back next year. Which is a damn shame because I think he is a tremendous coach. Aaron will obviously be the starter next year, but it is hard to say whether he'll be the starter the year after if he continues on the path he's on. Time will tell I guess - this could all be moot if he turns it around. It doesn't seem likely in my opinion he'll ever be an MVP candidate again though, does it?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Some where in here we have a thread about an article that reviewed long term coaches. They used a cutoff of 7 or 8 years, I think. Something like that. Generally, coaches who stayed beyond that were not as successful in the second part of their careers as they were in the first. As I recall, the difference was significant.

The NFL is designed to disassemble dynasties. That could bias those stats. Bellicek & Brady had their dip. Now they're back.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Rodger's problems are in his head. He'll get his groove back someday with some team.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Next year would be the perfect time to replace Stubby with a man who has a true prospective on Coach/QB communication and on the aerial circus which is the post-modern NFL:

[Rutnstrut]

Packers offense will turn it around just enough for everyone to be back again next year so we can do it all over again.

That is what scares me. The real fix for this problem is getting rid of stubby.

[gbgary]

what's ailing Rodgers is the major topic on all the tv sports talk shows so far this week.

[Rutnstrut]

what's ailing Rodgers is the major topic on all the tv sports talk shows so far this week.

Did you see Jennings on "the Herd" yesterday? He and others that know Rodgers had some interesting things to say. One common consensus was that he's sensitive, nice way of saying he's a pussy. Another was that he commonly talks down to people including coaches and his relationship with stubby is tenuous at best. There was also many good things said about him as well. Another common thought was that there is definitely something wrong with him since Denver last year.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

what's ailing Rodgers is the major topic on all the tv sports talk shows so far this week.

Sucks that Skip Bayless is no longer at ESPN.

His and Stephen A's arguments were probably plain acts, but they were, at times, pretty funny - intellectually.

Haven't checked yet, but would love to know what Skip has to say 'bout ole 12 this week.

[Rutnstrut]

Sucks that Skip Bayless is no longer at ESPN.

His and Stephen A's arguments might had been plain acts, but they were, at times, pretty funny - intellectually.

Haven't checked yet, but would love to know what Skip has to say 'bout ole 12 this week.

He gets into it pretty good with Shannon Sharp on their new show.

[Smidgeon]

Next year would be the perfect time to replace Stubby with a man who has a true prospective on Coach/QB communication and on the aerial circus which is the post-modern NFL:

After listening to him in the booth during the last game, it's no surprise to me his attempt at broadcasting fizzled so dramatically. The man knows the football game inside and out and can probably talk to amazing depths on the nuances, but he stumbled so much trying to keep it summarized for the plebeians. He'd probably do better as a coach than a commentator, but no idea how well he'd do there.

[gbgary]

i think he was trying to be politically correct too.