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  • #16
    NT may be the toughest position to fill, but the Packers are also missing two other components, namely monster DEs.

    With only three down lineman, you need big sturdy run stuffers at DE too. Kampman is Kearny sized and he struggled at this position.

    KGB could only be at LB in this D.

    McGinest is often cited as a hybrid that works, but remember he was the fourth D lineman for passing downs. His position in the base D was LB.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Lurker64
      Doesn't the 3-4 usually require a huge run eating DT to eat up as many blocks as possible? Do we have someone who could fill that role? Nothing I saw in the preseason from Pickett or Allen (probably the two best candidates for that spot) gave me great confidence in their ability to be 3-4 DTs.
      Lurker 64 you have to be my favorite poster. I don't know why, I just always saw you lurking and wondered when you were going to post. I agree with you, they certainly don't have the right personel to run the 3-4.

      Perhaps on first down as well as second and short they could do something like Allen, Pickett, and Cole across the front 3. These guys are probably a good enough combination to stop the run.

      On passing downs, I would put Hunter and KGB at the outside LB spots, and Jenkins and Kampman on the ends with Pickett in the middle. Who knows, though.

      Overall though, I don't foresee it working with their current roster. They would need some serious turnover to make it happen and work successfully. Not to say thats not something TT wouldn't do, though.

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      • #18
        I think the ravens run the hybrid 4-3/3-4 with LB Terrell Suggs who will line up as a DE then drop to a outside linebacker before the snap and vise versa
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        • #19
          3-4

          What will we do with all our defensive tackles ? That is the deepest position on the team. Pickett,Cole, Allen, Williams We are a least 2 deep at both tackle positions and could rotate and keep fresh players in the game with no drop off. Cullen jenkins would backup end and be a pass rushing tackle.

          I just think GB does not have the right personel for the 3-4

          Huge run stuffing tackle ?

          at least 2 Big linebackers 255 - 260

          At ends Kampman is very average and jenkins will not look as quick at end KGB is to small for a 3-4 every down end. No pash rush from the normal defense.

          Our linebackers do not seem to be very effectivr blitzing either

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          • #20
            Barnett would be useless in a 3-4. Barnett needs 2 DT's up front to engulf the interior O-Linemen so that they can't get to him. The ILB's in a 3-4 need to be able to fight off blocks, and Barnett can't do that.
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            • #21
              Well, by no means am I saying we should switch to a BASE 3-4 defense, I just think it'd be something that would work pretty well if we just threw it in there unexpectedly for a few plays.

              I agree, we don't have IDEAL players for the 3-4, but if we kept the 4-3 as our base and put the 3-4 in there as a surprise, I think it'd work well.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Lurker64
                Doesn't the 3-4 usually require a huge run eating DT to eat up as many blocks as possible? Do we have someone who could fill that role?

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