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  • #46
    Originally posted by red View Post
    if he hits free agency, someone will pay him top 5 money

    i'm guessing he'll get 7-9 million a year

    he can be a monster if someone can control his weight and knows how to properly use running backs

    plus he's 26, this is his one and only chance to hit it big, he'll go for as much money as possible

    he's averaging over 5 yards per carry, among the best in the league. however he ranks 21st in attempts. in a decent running system, he's easily a top 5 back
    7-9 million would put him the top 5 paid running backs. I wonder if he'll get that. He'll be coming off 2 years where he was overweight, and then possibly had a season-ending injury. Teams will probably want the contract to be high in incentives and low in guaranteed money.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #47
      I think the situation is clearer than many seem to believe. If an NFL running back can't get into shape for a contract year in which he stands to gain or lose millions of dollars - literally - then anyone who signs the guy ought to know exactly what they are getting, which is a guy who will, once signed, be even less hungry to excel and more hungry for a Whopper.

      Hell, even Cletidus Hunt managed to get into shape for a year so he could get that big contract.
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #48
        who said he's not in shape. he may be near as heavy as last year but his endurance and strength is much better. he not getting tired.

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        • #49
          I agree he seems to be in much better physical conditioning.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #50
            Lacy's conditioning is better this year, but I think he's still heavier than he should be.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              Lacy's conditioning is better this year, but I think he's still heavier than he should be.
              IMO, that's a fine line for a guy like Lacy. If he gets too light he is can't play the way he plays, and the injuries would probably be worse.

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              • #52
                I disagree. Lacy gets zero benefit from lugging a spare tire around his midsection. It only puts more strain on his joints. He could lose 15 more pounds without losing an ounce of muscle or power. 15 pounds less weight is not going to make him less of a battering ram. In fact he'll just be a bit quicker and take less direct hits.


                I say let Lacy walk. The era of Jerome Bettis running backs is over. Lacy is a bad gamble, other than as a modestly paid part of a rotation.

                BTW, Marshon Lynch, a similar back, was better than Lacy because he had a somewhat leaner build, at least in part.

                I can't argue with LAcy's productivity this year when he was healthy. But I wouldn't invest in his future.
                Last edited by Harlan Huckleby; 10-23-2016, 01:12 PM.

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                • #53
                  Lacy is the only player I can remember who looks trim enough in a t-shirt, but pounchy in his football uniform. It doesn't make a lot of sense.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Patler View Post
                    Lacy is the only player I can remember who looks trim enough in a t-shirt, but pounchy in his football uniform. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
                    really? i can walk around all day with my gut sucked in, but i soon as a get winded, i start to lose control of it

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by red View Post
                      really? i can walk around all day with my gut sucked in, but i soon as a get winded, i start to lose control of it
                      The photos have been numerous and in enough situations that your reasoning doesn't explain it, I don't believe.
                      Last edited by Patler; 10-23-2016, 05:57 PM.

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                      • #56
                        I'll concede that maybe he's in somewhat better physical condition, but isn't a guy who is overweight by twenty or so pounds (in a contract year) the very definition of out-of-shape? He may have better wind, but he's not as fast nor as quick as he would be, nor could he run for as long.

                        I say that a guy who isn't in top physical condition in a contract year is not a good bet to be motivated once he's got the contract. I think he's the best running back the Packers have had since Ahman Green, but he's no Ahman Green. In his heyday, Green was a monster - and a fast monster.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                          In his heyday, Green was a monster - and a fast monster.
                          He combined power and speed as well as anyone did. Could run through weak LB tackles, knock over DBs regularly and outrun just about anyone on the field.

                          I think it would be a mistake to commit a lot of guaranteed money to Lacy, and any contract should be heavy on incentives.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Patler View Post
                            He combined power and speed as well as anyone did. Could run through weak LB tackles, knock over DBs regularly and outrun just about anyone on the field.

                            I think it would be a mistake to commit a lot of guaranteed money to Lacy, and any contract should be heavy on incentives.


                            I agree with you, Ted.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              Lacy is the only player I can remember who looks trim enough in a t-shirt, but pounchy in his football uniform. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
                              yup. lots of pics show this. i think the gear he wears is part of it. look at russel wilson tonight. he looks heavy but you know it's not the case.

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                              • #60
                                I'm ok with Lacy the way he was this year. I think he should get a little lighter each year though. That said, I don't trust him at all. I'd like to keep him at a medium sized deal. Nothing huge.
                                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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