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7-9 million would put him the top 5 paid running backs. I wonder if he'll get that. He'll be coming off 2 years where he was overweight, and then possibly had a season-ending injury. Teams will probably want the contract to be high in incentives and low in guaranteed money.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I think the situation is clearer than many seem to believe. If an NFL running back can't get into shape for a contract year in which he stands to gain or lose millions of dollars - literally - then anyone who signs the guy ought to know exactly what they are getting, which is a guy who will, once signed, be even less hungry to excel and more hungry for a Whopper.
Hell, even Cletidus Hunt managed to get into shape for a year so he could get that big contract."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Lacy's conditioning is better this year, but I think he's still heavier than he should be.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I disagree. Lacy gets zero benefit from lugging a spare tire around his midsection. It only puts more strain on his joints. He could lose 15 more pounds without losing an ounce of muscle or power. 15 pounds less weight is not going to make him less of a battering ram. In fact he'll just be a bit quicker and take less direct hits.
I say let Lacy walk. The era of Jerome Bettis running backs is over. Lacy is a bad gamble, other than as a modestly paid part of a rotation.
BTW, Marshon Lynch, a similar back, was better than Lacy because he had a somewhat leaner build, at least in part.
I can't argue with LAcy's productivity this year when he was healthy. But I wouldn't invest in his future.Last edited by Harlan Huckleby; 10-23-2016, 01:12 PM.
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really? i can walk around all day with my gut sucked in, but i soon as a get winded, i start to lose control of itOriginally posted by Patler View PostLacy is the only player I can remember who looks trim enough in a t-shirt, but pounchy in his football uniform. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
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The photos have been numerous and in enough situations that your reasoning doesn't explain it, I don't believe.Originally posted by red View Postreally? i can walk around all day with my gut sucked in, but i soon as a get winded, i start to lose control of itLast edited by Patler; 10-23-2016, 05:57 PM.
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I'll concede that maybe he's in somewhat better physical condition, but isn't a guy who is overweight by twenty or so pounds (in a contract year) the very definition of out-of-shape? He may have better wind, but he's not as fast nor as quick as he would be, nor could he run for as long.
I say that a guy who isn't in top physical condition in a contract year is not a good bet to be motivated once he's got the contract. I think he's the best running back the Packers have had since Ahman Green, but he's no Ahman Green. In his heyday, Green was a monster - and a fast monster."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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He combined power and speed as well as anyone did. Could run through weak LB tackles, knock over DBs regularly and outrun just about anyone on the field.Originally posted by Fritz View PostIn his heyday, Green was a monster - and a fast monster.
I think it would be a mistake to commit a lot of guaranteed money to Lacy, and any contract should be heavy on incentives.
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Originally posted by Patler View PostHe combined power and speed as well as anyone did. Could run through weak LB tackles, knock over DBs regularly and outrun just about anyone on the field.
I think it would be a mistake to commit a lot of guaranteed money to Lacy, and any contract should be heavy on incentives.
I agree with you, Ted."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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yup. lots of pics show this. i think the gear he wears is part of it. look at russel wilson tonight. he looks heavy but you know it's not the case.Originally posted by Patler View PostLacy is the only player I can remember who looks trim enough in a t-shirt, but pounchy in his football uniform. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
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