Official Week 8 Packers/Falcons Discussion Thread

[gbgary]

Agreed, KY. The guy just disappears. And for all the talk about his weight loss, he's still as sluggish as a manatee.

jason whitten still manages to get open all the time. RR might be getting open but AR is probably looking further down the field.

[pbmax]

Green Bay Packers @packers
#Packers sign C Jacob Flores to the practice squad: http://pckrs.com/ye69

[Pugger]

I finally got to see the entire game on YouTube this morning and Phil Simms is right - AR's fine (he missed on a couple of throws but it shows he's human) but our WRs have issues getting open against man coverage. The announcers pointed out that even when given extra time by our O line AR still has trouble finding people open. Ty, Cobb and Adams had a nice game in the second half. We're gonna need more of this if we want to get a win in Atlanta on Sunday.

[pbmax]

^ The entire game is on You Tube?

Wes Hodkiewicz @WesHod 7m7 minutes ago
Cook, Starks and Damarious Randall not practicing. Clay Matthews and Quinten Rollins rode bikes. Don Jackson was practicing #Packers

[George Cumby]

Ignoring any opinion about the actual relative impact the Bear offensive QB situation, the Bear defense and the Packer offense had on the Packer offense's ability to move the ball - here are the teams that the Packers offense has exposed for pretty big production in the last year-long period of offensive challenges that started last year in Denver (Week 7).

The Packers offense gained over 400 yds. four times since the Denver debacle - twice last year against #6 D Carolina (402 yds. Loss, Week 8) and #17 Dallas (435 yds. Win, Week 13), and twice more so far this year against the #19 D Giants (406, Win, Week 4) and the #12 D Bears (406. Win, Week 6). Yes the Bears currently have the #12 ranked overall defense.

They were pretty much completely futile twice last year against the league’s best defense in Denver (140 yds., Loss, Week 7) and #5 D Arizona (178 yds., Loss, Week 15).

The worst game this year in terms of moving the ball was also the league’s #1 D Minnesota (263 yds., Loss, Week 2).

All other games in the last year they've gained 300 – 400 yards – against #9 D Jacksonville, #25 Detroit and #17 Dallas this year. Last year they gained 300-400 yards against #13 Minnesota, #24 Jacksonville, #18 Detroit and #14 Chicago.

With a couple exceptions where they moved it well against top 10 defenses (You might say those defenses laid an egg.) the Packers have pretty much moved it well against decent, average and below defenses – while shitting the bed against elite (top 5 or better) defenses - big-time last year but not so much this year.

Atlanta’s defense is currently ranked THE WORST of all of the last 16 regular season opponents over the last year post-Denver at #26 overall YTD, giving up 386 yds. and more than 28 pts a game.

The Packers have had well-documented issues scoring points in the red zone, but they've moved the ball into the red zone really well overall. I can’t see any reason why they shouldn’t be able to do so against the worst defense of all of them in Atlanta.

Now they have to figure out how to start punching it in with some consistency. It’s possible they could get outscored this week, but it figures to be the best opportunity in the last 16 games to start establishing some of that consistency moving forward.

What's with all these fact, numbers and shit?

Edit: Great post.

[RashanGary]

Well saifd, Vince. Thanks for the research!

[KYPack]

Man, that was one King Hell post, Vince.

I'll be the third stooge in congratulating ya on that one.

Well "saifd" indeed.

Couple points.

It's still a tough road game, no matter how you slice it.

A big one we need to add to our portfolio, if this year is to amount to anything.

On Dickrod, I'm lost on this guy. There was a piece of last season where he was ARod's only guy. He was getting open and was the only one doing so. Does he need to put the weight back on? Need to get back on the same dope he was using last season? Woman trouble? What?

[pbmax]

Another thing to keep in mind is that the Packers are 16th in League scoring on offense. But they are third in the League in red zone trips.

If they figure out the red zone (a big IF) and convert more TDs, they easily move into the top ten in scoring.

[pbmax]

Cobb and Matthews have Packer Hamstring

[pbmax]

Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
Tampa Bay making a push to land a vet WR, sources said. Willing to move a pick and/or CB J. Banks or A. Verner for the right guy...

[vince]

Appreciate it guys. Yeah KY it's likely to be a battle.

..to round out some of the simple stat match-up comparisons...


Falcons D - #27 pts/game, #26 yds/game, #31 passing yds/game, #9 rushing yds/game, #15 sacks/game
vs.
Packers O - #14 pts/game, #22 yds/game, #20 passing yds/game, #19 rushing yds/game, #5 ranked OL

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Packers D - #11 pts/game, #7 yds/game, #15 passing yds/game, #1 rushing yds/game, #7 sacks/game
vs.
Falcons O - #1 pts/game, #1 yds/game, #2 passing yds/game, #14 rushing yds/game, #28 ranked OL

[gbgary]

Appreciate it guys. Yeah KY it's likely to be a battle.

yup...that's why i said dal 2.0

[QBME]

Ignoring any opinion about the actual relative impact the Bear offensive QB situation, the Bear defense and the Packer offense had on the Packer offense's ability to move the ball - here are the teams that the Packers offense has exposed for pretty big production in the last year-long period of offensive challenges that started last year in Denver (Week 7).

The Packers offense gained over 400 yds. four times since the Denver debacle - twice last year against #6 D Carolina (402 yds. Loss, Week 8) and #17 Dallas (435 yds. Win, Week 13), and twice more so far this year against the #19 D Giants (406, Win, Week 4) and the #12 D Bears (406. Win, Week 6). Yes the Bears currently have the #12 ranked overall defense.

They were pretty much completely futile twice last year against the league’s best defense in Denver (140 yds., Loss, Week 7) and #5 D Arizona (178 yds., Loss, Week 15).

The worst game this year in terms of moving the ball was also the league’s #1 D Minnesota (263 yds., Loss, Week 2).

All other games in the last year they've gained 300 – 400 yards – against #9 D Jacksonville, #25 Detroit and #17 Dallas this year. Last year they gained 300-400 yards against #13 Minnesota, #24 Jacksonville, #18 Detroit and #14 Chicago.

With a couple exceptions where they moved it well against top 10 defenses (You might say those defenses laid an egg.) the Packers have pretty much moved it well against decent, average and below defenses – while shitting the bed against elite (top 5 or better) defenses - big-time last year but not so much this year.

Atlanta’s defense is currently ranked THE WORST of all of the last 16 regular season opponents over the last year post-Denver at #26 overall YTD, giving up 386 yds. and more than 28 pts a game.

The Packers have had well-documented issues scoring points in the red zone, but they've moved the ball into the red zone really well overall. I can’t see any reason why they shouldn’t be able to do so against the worst defense of all of them in Atlanta.

Now they have to figure out how to start punching it in with some consistency. It’s possible they could get outscored this week, but it figures to be the best opportunity in the last 16 games to start establishing some of that consistency moving forward.

Thank you.

Mrs QBME and I are travelling to Atlanta for the game, as we pick an away game every year to attend. We booked the trip during pre-season and I've been feeling pretty shitty about it lately. Then the NFL flexed the game to 3:25 PM and forced us to extend the trip another day. (Get up for first flight out Monday morning and then go to work.)

So, yes, woe is me. Need some more reasons why the Pack will pull this one out.

PBMax - please start a thread and ruminate on the overall health of the Falcons, particularly Matt Ryan and Julio Jones.

[pbmax]

Ryan's arms have always looked skinny to me. I don't know.

And Julio has to be tired after carrying Richard Sherman around for 3 hours.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

What's up with the Claymaker? Spent two years at ILB, not once did we hear about his poor hammy. Now back at OLB, he's back to being a hammy pull a-waiting to happen.

With the bums the Pack have at corner, the Claymaker's gonna need to show up and light up in this game.